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Just Imagine the Comments

Just imagine the way people talk to each other.

Try to imagine the reaction of an out-of-towner reading the comments in a Patch political blog. Then, suppose this foreigner is considering a move to San Diego. This person is an Independent—we’re just supposing. She is an attractive university graduate, a wealthy widow, with children, 10, 2, and 4. Her husband, a very successful physician—Dr. Pepper—was also politically Independent.

As she reads Jac Flanders’ political blog in the Encinitas Patch—let’s suppose—she has a wry smile that slowly turns into to slight scowl, then a distinct frown; her mouth drops open, and she begins to scream. People in neighboring rooms run into the hall and out of the hotel—a posh beachfront Holiday Inn overlooking La Jolla Cove—as I said, you have to use your imagination. A crowd has gathered outside, as the police arrive and run, guns drawn, into the hotel. Ms. Pepper is found, mouth agape, tears still flowing, the Patch still on her lap, staring up from her laptop. An officer asks, What's the matter, lady?

What's the matter, she sobs, What’s the matter? Have you seen the way these people talk to each other? Do they talk this way in Rancho Santa Fe?

The officer holsters his weapon, and kneels beside Ms. Pepper and takes her hand. Tenderly he says, "Some of them do, yes Ma’am."

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Carl Petersen III February 11, 2013 at 05:27 PM
I have written about the same subject in my blog http://lakeelsinore-wildomar.patch.com/blog_posts/the-bully-culture . Until the Patch realizes that they are loosing readers because of this problem, I do not think that they will be motivated to fix it.
Retired in the sun February 12, 2013 at 07:31 PM
Jac, you have lost your mind.
Carl Petersen III February 13, 2013 at 03:45 PM
The Patch's editors continue to show that they have no interest in enforcing there own rules. For example, in a comment section where comments are reviewed by editors before posting, how does something like this go through: . . Constant Comment 11:17 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 Linda, honestly, you should start with going to go get your hormones checked. Also no need for barkin back at me....just some friendly advice that you can either take or just ignore. }~) . . This is on http://temecula.patch.com//articles/gov-brown-will-open-ca-trade-office-in-china-touts-high-speed-rail-3fe2d8b7 Maybe it is just me, but that does not sound like it conforms to a TOS that the Patch itself summarizes as "Instead of trying to memorize all that, you might boil it down to three main policies: “Keep it clean,” “Don’t try to trick people,” and “Treat others as you’d like to be treated.” Easy, right?" And the commentator is perhaps the worst offender of all. After continuously harassing me (and any other person who does not share his ideology) he finally went too far and had his account deleted. However, he was so desperate for attention (and the Patch's controls are so poor) that he simply logged in again using the same name. The Patch then tried blocking his IP address. He also got around this and created a new log in, again using the same name. (continued...)
Carl Petersen III February 13, 2013 at 04:03 PM
Before he can deny my account of these events, I'll present my proof. First, if you look up his account, you will see that his postings only go back to January 22, 2013 http://lakeelsinore-wildomar.patch.com/users/constant-comment-a47e69df/comments?page=14 This despite the fact that he has postings on blogs earlier than this date. For an example see the first comment on my blog: http://lakeelsinore-wildomar.patch.com/blog_posts/the-hidden-children . . Constant Comment 8:11 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013 "Is this why you spend so much time on the Patch; commenting and challenging every one on here? Wouldn't that time; all hours of every day, be better spent with your "step daughters" rather than arguing with everone on here? Shouldn't they have ALL of your quality time, instead of us?" . . If his account did not get deleted, where did all of these other postings go? He cannot claim that he deleted them as they are still up on my blog. Second, I have an e-mail from Toni McAllister informing me that they were blocking his IP address: (Continued)
Carl Petersen III February 13, 2013 at 04:11 PM
From: Toni McAllister <toni.mcallister@patch.com> Date: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:47 AM Subject: Re: New comment on your blog post To: Orange Man <XXXXX@XXXXX> Yep, he is using multiple IP addresses. We are blocking ... On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Orange Man <XXXXX@XXXXX> wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lake Elsinore-Wildomar Patch <noreply@patch.com> Date: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:33 PM Subject: New comment on your blog post To: XXXXX@XXXXX View as Webpage Hi Carl Petersen III, Constant Comment commented on your blog post, Rainbows Are Beautiful, So Obama Must Be A Socialist: XXXXX To respond view the comment on Patch. You received this email because you wrote Rainbows Are Beautiful, So Obama Must Be A Socialist on Lake Elsinore-Wildomar Patch. To stop receiving updates for this BlogPost, click here. To manage all of your updates, click here. To unsubscribe from all Patch emails, click here. Privacy Policy Patch Media Corporation 584 Broadway, Suite 808, New York, NY 10012 -- Visit Priest From Pluto on Reverbnation https://www.reverbnation.com/priestfrompluto -- Toni McAllister Local Editor, Lake Elsinore-Wildomar and Temecula lakeelsinore-wildomar.patch.com temecula.patch.com XXX-XXX-XXXX Patch 331 N. Maple Drive Beverly Hills, CA 90210 patch.com Interested in advertising on Lake Elsinore-Wildomar Patch? Contact Mindy Skaggs, Advertising Manager, at mindy.skaggs@patch.com or XXX-XXX-XXXX.
Carl Petersen III February 13, 2013 at 04:26 PM
Furthermore, when they do decide to enforce the rules on the Lake Elsinore Patch, it is uneven. As of this writing, the following post is still live on the site http://lakeelsinore-wildomar.patch.com/articles/lake-elsinore-takes-step-to-move-the-city-forward#comment_6362449 : . . Arthur Spooner 10:11 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 "Carl Petersen III 8:36 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 Arthur Spooner 7:30 pm on Sunday, February 10, 2013 "One Voice Old Navy is gone?? What the heck?? That place is becoming a ghost town. I thought the economy was getting better all of you Obama lovers???" . . If Arthur trips and falls on the way from his house to the car, he blames it on the President. I do not trip and fall, because unlike you, I can see over my stomach! I have seen you Carl, I would race you in a foot race or a weight lifting contest any day!" . . Keep in mind that the Lake Elsinore/Wildomar Patch is on lockdown. Every comment must be reviewed by an editor before it goes live on the site. Somehow, this comment made the cut. However, when I posted the following response: . . "You'll compete in anything as long as it does not involve anything intellectual." . . I received the following e-mail from the Patch: (Continued)
Carl Petersen III February 13, 2013 at 04:30 PM
"Hi Carl Petersen III, Thanks for getting active on Lake Elsinore-Wildomar Patch. We encourage each of our neighbors to join the conversation, share their thoughts, and speak up. However, the following comment cannot be published on the site because it conflicts with our Terms of Use. Your recent contribution: "Arthur Spooner 14 minutes ago "I would race you in a foot race or a weight lifting contest any day!" . . You'll compete in anything as long as it does not involve anything intellectual." You’re more than welcome to add a new comment and submit it anytime to Lake Elsinore-Wildomar Patch. Just refer to the Patch Terms of Use below. Acceptable Use Policy Communities thrive when people care about each other, and as such, Patch expects all of its users to be respectful of others. If you notice any violation of this Acceptable Use Policy or other unacceptable behavior by any user, please report it to support@patch.com. ..." (Continued...)
Carl Petersen III February 13, 2013 at 04:38 PM
The only way that this problem is going to be fixed is if people put pressure on the editors of the Patch. I am, therefore, suggesting that people do the following with any comment that violates the TOS: 1) Send an e-mail to the editor politely expressing your objection. 2) Copy chrisj@patch.com on your e-mails. Chris overseas the editors in this region. 3) As the e-mail from the Patch states, copy support@patch.com on these e-mails. Ask them who at a higher level in the company can help return civility to the site.
Arthur Spooner February 13, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Carl nice to know we are getting under your skin. If you do not like the LE Patch, don't log in. You dont even live here!! Go back to PorterTucky and get on your own Patch! Freaking whiney liberals, I swear, you men are all such girls! Oh and you mentioned about tripping and falling, when are we going to race? Did the stomach comment hurt your feelings??
Vic February 13, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Unfortunately, Carl, controversy drives the numbers up and Patch knows it. Why they let it get so out of hand, tho, is beyond me. It's like a parent that ignores his child's misbehavior for days on end until he finally explodes and comes down like a ton of bricks on him. Patch needs to monitor with more consistancy. As you sited above, there's no rhyme or reason to what they'll let go thru and what they reject. That, in itself, is frustrating enough to make people give up. Without consistancy, people will continue to push the limits. But maybe that's what the editors want....
The Teller of Truth February 14, 2013 at 12:24 AM
Carl, your so called proof is just as crazy as your comments are. You're just providing Patches email addys & asking people to join your bully mentality to get rid of people YOU don't like off the blogs. Shameful.
Constant Comment February 14, 2013 at 01:11 AM
Wow Jac, looks like someone hijacked your thread & is using it to ask people to gang up & bully people that he feels is a threat to him. What do you have to say about that? }~\
Constant Comment February 14, 2013 at 01:27 AM
@Carl, thanks for sharing some of your complaints that you continually bother the editors with. At least we know who the culprit is that has us all in the "pending" mode, ruining it for a back & forth conversation in real time. As far as your suggestion to rally around you & complain about the posters that you might feel intellectually threatened by; Carl Petersen III 8:38 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 "The only way that this problem is going to be fixed is if people put pressure on the editors of the Patch." Grown ups don't behave this way. Shameful.... Thanks for revealing to us, who the poster messing things up is. }~\
Debbie February 14, 2013 at 01:38 AM
Thank you Jac! I agree with you completely. There are many people out their who refuse to post on The Patch because the Editor's have allowed the bullies to take over. It is a real shame because good articles are turned into junk because the bullies take control of the comment sections with their lies, insults and complete rudeness. And worst part? The Editors have allowed this!
Medusa February 14, 2013 at 01:57 AM
@ Vic - Can't imagine why the Editor's want their paper to be a big joke!
Arthur Spooner February 14, 2013 at 04:20 AM
Carl are you mad because I can out run you?? Seriosly!
Vic February 14, 2013 at 04:43 AM
Money talks, Medusa. If the readership declines, so does the advertising revenue. A little controversy is great for drawing in those who want a show. But it gets out of hand way too often.
Carl Petersen III February 14, 2013 at 04:51 AM
Vic 5 hours ago "But maybe that's what the editors want...." . . If it is, I think that it is going to back fire on them. I talked to someone on Saturday who equated the comment section to apes throwing their own poop at the zoo. That is only entertaining for so long.
Vic February 14, 2013 at 05:22 AM
Perfect analogy!
The Teller of Truth February 14, 2013 at 06:46 AM
If you think that "apes throwing poop at each other" is entertaining for even a second, you've got a problem. The editors want intellect, not children hurling insults and then calling & whining to the Patch Editors when they are put in their place. It has nothing to do with different idealogies as he would want you to believe either. It is more like one impetulant child with several aliase, that wants to be this imaginary "King of the Patch".Sad.
The Teller of Truth February 14, 2013 at 06:47 AM
Guess you haven't read THE KINGS latest two blogs then! Zero comments.
Carl Petersen III February 14, 2013 at 05:25 PM
The Teller of Truth 18 minutes ago "The editors want intellect, not children hurling insults" . . Are you directing that to your alter-ego, Constant Comment?
Carl Petersen III February 14, 2013 at 05:26 PM
The Teller of Truth 18 minutes ago "with several aliase" . . Need I remind you that only one of us is hiding behind an alias. I am using my real name.
One Voice February 14, 2013 at 06:06 PM
Carl: If you don't like what the people are saying to you on the Lake Elsinore/Wildomar Patch maybe you should post and blog on the Patch in the town where you actually live instead of harassing those that live in LE.
Carl Petersen III February 14, 2013 at 07:26 PM
One Voice 4 minutes ago " maybe you should post and blog on the Patch in the town where you actually live instead of harassing those that live in LE." . . Take a look at the top of the page One Voice/Diana. Did you move to La Jolla?

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