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Blog: What Is It That Republicans Think They Have Won?

Obstruction and just saying "no" is not a winning strategy. It isn’t a game. But, right now, it’s Democrats vs. Republicans – and the Conservatives are loosing.

Not the presidential election, which Republicans still seem unable to accept. It’s a lot like the Civil War; it has taken more then a century for the South to admit defeat. Please take note: slavery is banned. I wish we could say the same about assault weapons, the filibuster, the death penalty, war, weapons of mass destruction – and Newt Gingrich.

I know you have your own wish list of prohibitions, but I’m just saying . . .

The Republican list includes social welfare programs, such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, abortion rights, equal pay for women, the minimum hourly wage – they would rather pay two employees $4.5 an hour each, than pay one $9.00! Republicans would add to their list: taxes on businesses, universal healthcare, any curb on military spending  – and President Obama.

For now, the Liberals won, folks! You can rewrite the scoreboard however you like, by redistricting, limiting voting hours, electing Tea Party Governors – sticking out your tongue and showing us your middle finger. It won’t do a bit of good, not for the next couple of years. Before the mid-term elections, Republicans had better change their game plan. Obstruction and just saying “no” is not a winning strategy.

The sad fact is, the Republican Party, including the Tea Party, is doing its best to diminish the effectiveness of the conservative argument. Republicans have forgotten their prime objectives: to limit the size of government, create jobs, and reduce the national debt. Many Democrats, myself included, would love to trim the waste, close tax loopholes, bring our troops home, protect our borders, rebuild our infrastructure, and better educate our children – goals we may have in common with Conservatives. At least we would be arguing about our mutual problems, instead of wallowing in social engineering, and cheering for each other’s “team.”

It isn’t a game. But, right now, it’s Republicans vs. Democrats – and the Conservatives are loosing. 

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jill smith February 26, 2013 at 05:08 AM
You wrote a lot of comments to me I will attempt to answer a few. Most people understand when referring to the fed the discussion is about Ben Bernanke. If you want to get really freaked out, jill, there is twice as much U.S. currency outside of the country than inside of it. The currency outside of the country is mostly in the hands of people who sell drugs, guns, women, gold, and diamonds illegally. The only currency they will take is U.S First of all Dan I don't freak out, and I am glad you read between the lines, your comment above is accurate, and included in those people are the international bankers. I liked your blog Whack a Human because I agree with most of it. People should be outraged at Obama for violating our constitutional laws , and murdering a U.S. citizen without judge jury or trial. That is tyranny or the act of a dictator. Not one person commented on your blog, that is shocking, people should be outraged at Obama for allowing that kill order. I am not anti war, and I have great respect for those who have courageously fought for my freedom. I am not anti drone either, but drones need to be used according to our laws, and for a precise target. Dropping a bomb on a wedding and killing innocent men women and children is not a precise kill of a terrorist, it is just murder, for the sake of murder.
Komfort February 26, 2013 at 06:40 PM
Attention Elsinore and Wildomar, here is a Blog that Jac is hiding from you: "Whatever it takes, we the Republicans pledge to bring down the government before we will adopt or compromise on any of the President’s plans to help the economy in the next four years..." http://lamesa.patch.com/d/blog_posts/we-the-republicans-of-the-united-states
Darreld February 27, 2013 at 04:56 AM
Ahhh, there it is. The pack of lies by Jac the truth killer. Sorry Jac but your blog is so unimpressive and clearly dilusional. It is the liberals on the left who are without a doubt killing the economy and the country. CA is the living embodiment of leftist liberal corruption and failure. You sir, are as guilty as those who murder children in the womb, destroy families, destroy lives and steal people's dreams. How dare you.
Arthur Spooner February 27, 2013 at 06:20 AM
Carl I would get rid of the environmentalist BS !! I would lower taxes on all businesses that employ over 10 people. I would monitor your computer while you work!
Arthur Spooner February 27, 2013 at 04:22 PM
Now I have heard it all. Shane was a VP at The Happiest Place on Earth! Well gosh darn, that means he is the smartest man on the planet. We all need to listen closely what he has to say. Tell us Shane, tell us how successful you were.
Arthur Spooner February 27, 2013 at 04:23 PM
Socialism is proof that you cannot reward bad behavior. It never lifts anyone up, it only brings them down further!
Carl Petersen III February 28, 2013 at 04:41 AM
Arthur Spooner 1:51 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 "Socialism is proof that you cannot reward bad behavior. It never lifts anyone up, it only brings them down further!" . . There are some Western Europeans who would disagree with you.
Bret D. Rijke March 01, 2013 at 04:03 AM
@ Carl Petersen III; You wrote; "There are some Western Europeans who would disagree with you." Yes, I am sure that Greece and France are reveling in their prosperity! The Netherlands and Spain are not far behind either. And England has just been downgraded to boot! But this is an invalid argument on your part regardless if Europe were rejoicing in their wealth. For Europeans have a vastly different goal in mind, and have since the French Revolution. Namely, they seek equality. And we in America have sought liberty instead. And you cannot have both. The one will destroy the other.
Frank H. Robles March 01, 2013 at 05:39 AM
Ok,,,,Carl , just tumbing through the Bible....on self defense, lots of turn the other cheek, live by the sword die by the sword and Revelation 13:10...." If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed by the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints"
Frank H. Robles March 01, 2013 at 05:51 AM
Ok Carl.....Just tumbing through the Bible on self defense, lots of turn the other cheek, live by the sword, die by the sword and Revelation 13:10 " If anyone is to go into captivity, he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfullness on the part of the saints"
Carl Petersen III March 01, 2013 at 03:28 PM
Bret D. Rijke 8:46 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013 "For Europeans have a vastly different goal in mind, and have since the French Revolution. Namely, they seek equality. And we in America have sought liberty instead. And you cannot have both. The one will destroy the other." . . Socialism is an economic policy, not a political one.
Dan Avery March 01, 2013 at 04:19 PM
Liberty and Equality will destroy each other? Tell it to Martin Luther King, Jr. Ever read the Preamble? You tipped your hand in your first sentence after the quote. "Prosperity." The goal isn't to become wealthy. The goal is to become more humane.
Bret D. Rijke March 01, 2013 at 04:38 PM
@ Dan Avery; You obviously have no true comprehension of what equality is, or pretends to be and what liberty is. They are mortal enemies. I don't give a hoot what a philandering pretender and plagarist like MLK has to say. Equality is the false God of the 20th Century, and even Tocqueville warned against the mindless march to equality. Jefferson wrote at length as to the inability to foster both in any society. So really, you are arguing against much greater minds than you or I. But you go right ahead and foster the pipe dream of equality. It can only exist by the force of government and the lessening of liberty. And all in all, it is a very European concept more in keeping with the French Revolution and it's natural offspring the Marxists.
Dan Avery March 02, 2013 at 01:17 AM
Bret, What sort of liberty are you willing to fight for if there is no equality that goes with it. The sort of liberty where you have a lot and others next door don't have as much based on the color of their skin? That's not a particularly "American" ideal as we like to think of them, but it certainly is in practice. Your characterization of King was very telling. I'm sure the Arians think you can't have both. That would be very convient given their world view. Hitler was all for the liberty you are championing. And it sounds great if you're white and "christian." It doesn't take a mental giant to figure out what you're really saying and arguing here. Heck, bubba, one doesn't even have to follow the logic out more than about four inches.
Carl Petersen III March 02, 2013 at 04:21 AM
Bret D. Rijke 10:24 am on Friday, March 1, 2013 "Jefferson wrote at length as to the inability to foster both in any society. So really, you are arguing against much greater minds than you or I. But you go right ahead and foster the pipe dream of equality." . . "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Bret D. Rijke March 02, 2013 at 08:21 AM
@ Dan Avery; Right to the old racist card! Sorry, that doesn't work anymore. You are going to have to actually articulate your point. But I will give you a little historical insight. Liberty was, and is, the fundamental plank of the 1760-1791 American march towards Independence. Counting all of the economic factors and "equality before law", it was about the implementation of John Locke's "Treatise on Government I & II". It was the idea that man is born (whether by a Creator or by bestowed by "Nature") with Rights, based upon liberty. The only equality that was ever aimed for was in legal cases and before courts. They knew that equality is a false occurance. It does not occur in nature, whereas liberty does. The only way to find equality is to force it. And only government can force. Government cannot create anything, so it can only bestow what it takes. Thus, the pursuit of equality destroys liberty. But hey, if it makes you feel superior to throw around a Hitler tag and instead of arguing the point, just resort the insults, which are the last refuge of the out argued... then please do continue. But if you really, really want to expand your perception, then try reading what the Founding Fathers actually wrote and said.
Jay Berman March 02, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Carl - ... All men are CREATED equal ... not all men have equality in outcomes or aspects of their lives ... You and I are not equal ... we have different things ... experiences ... we were created equal. If you want pure equality, the government would giveus all equal housing, equal food rations and so on .... that is Marxism and it has never worked in any of it's nasty forms ... "The pursuit of happiness ... " A nice big car can be the happiness I pursue ... doesn't mean someone else has to drive a smaller one ... we have equal opportunity to excell or be lazy ... that is freedom ....
One Voice March 03, 2013 at 03:21 AM
Are you kidding me Arthur, you know I think I did see him there once, oh no, wait that was Goofy, sorry my mistake.
Dan Avery March 03, 2013 at 05:39 AM
Bret, Why would I want to read the founding fathers? Most of them owned slaves. That's like asking an drinking alcoholic what alcoholism is. Besides, Bret, it's no longer the late 1700's. We've actually learned a lot since the founding father's John Locke, thank God. That's it huh? You're stuck back there because that suits your argument? You're either an idiot or a racist. And I bet that's not the first time you've been called a racist. Guys with minds like yours crack me up. You believe in the "all the news that fits" stuff. Logic is, well logical, Bret. And you are arguing for some people to have more liberty that others. In other words, you're into totalitarianism. It's funny how equality bothers people like you. You want to think you're better than others.
jill smith March 03, 2013 at 12:56 PM
The following are your words Dan. You need to understand there is a difference between between being analytical and verbally abusive. Dan Avery 8:08 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013 JustUs you are one of the most reprehensible, ugly, soulless wastes of human flesh I have ever come across. You just love to try to demean and intimidate. And notice, you fool, how it isn't just me that says so. On every thread you've ever commented on several people have shared that assessment with you. I truly wish you were employable so you could return to whatever brain-numbing assembly line job you thought you were good at and leave us alone. DAN If you had a little more self esteem and could take a little criticism, you might be able to get through a paragraph without such hatred, and anger. Put down the martini Dan and maybe you wont be so angry. It's OK if others do not agree with your every word.
jill smith March 03, 2013 at 12:56 PM
The following are your words Dan. You need to understand there is a difference between between being analytical and verbally abusive. Dan Avery 8:08 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013 JustUs you are one of the most reprehensible, ugly, soulless wastes of human flesh I have ever come across. You just love to try to demean and intimidate. And notice, you fool, how it isn't just me that says so. On every thread you've ever commented on several people have shared that assessment with you. I truly wish you were employable so you could return to whatever brain-numbing assembly line job you thought you were good at and leave us alone. DAN If you had a little more self esteem and could take a little criticism, you might be able to get through a paragraph without such hatred, and anger. Put down the martini Dan and maybe you wont be so angry. It's OK if others do not agree with your every word.
Carl Petersen III March 03, 2013 at 04:14 PM
Jay Berman 5:37 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013 ""that is Marxism" . . Why are you switching the subject from Socialism to Marxism?
Carl Petersen III March 03, 2013 at 04:15 PM
Bret D. Rijke 8:46 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013 "And England has just been downgraded to boot!" . . Interestingly, because they pursued the same austerity plan that Republicans are pushing for in the United States.
Jay Berman March 03, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Carl - Socualism is a form of Marxism ... just as communism is ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx Read .. Learn .... He also wrote the Communist Menifesto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto My guess is that Obama is a true fan of Marx and his writings ...
A. Juror March 06, 2013 at 04:11 AM
The country and our state are spiraling downward at a rapid pace thanks to the Democrats.
On the right side March 06, 2013 at 11:12 PM
The Republicans aren't "loosing", the country is losing by fottowing barry and his regime. The Republicans are trying to slow this descent into becoming a third world country.
jill smith March 07, 2013 at 03:24 PM
Even MSNBC was disappointed in the want to be DICTATOR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=jXqog3txQUs&NR=1
jill smith March 07, 2013 at 03:24 PM
Even MSNBC was disappointed in the want to be DICTATOR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=jXqog3txQUs&NR=1
One Voice March 07, 2013 at 06:27 PM
Thank Jill for the video, our Commander & Chief is out of control.
Michael April 01, 2013 at 02:55 AM
that video is almost 4 years old........but thanks for sharing......it shows you the difference between liberals and conservatives..........far left leaning MSNBC's Rachel Maddow is shocked by Obama's plans.........if that was the GWB plan, Sean Hannity would be singing the plans praises.......the left is able to call a pile a crap a pile of crap..........the rightwing KoolAid drinkers just agree how great that pile of crap is...........you all should join the "King has NO clothes" side

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