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Wise Talk: What Is the NRA Afraid Of?

President Obama is trying to restrict—not entirely ban—assault weapons. The NRA is opposed for a few reasons, but none of them are logical.

Let's talk about assault weapons and the President's attempts to modify existing gun laws. First of all, those weapons are used almost exclusively for target practice. They are rarely, if ever, used for hunting. Any hunter who uses those weapons for game would tear his target to shreds, making the hunt useless and ridiculous.

I have a close friend who is a shooter, and an excellent one at that. He tells me that assault weapons have a minimum kick, so they can be used pretty accurately. He's the one who told me that those weapons are primarily used for target practice, and he should know.

So, if they are used primarily for target practice, why is the NRA so virulently against their restriction. What are they afraid of? The President isn't trying to take existing weapons away from their owners. He's trying to make sure those weapons are not sold to criminals or to the insane.

Furthermore, to be afraid of the government taking over all weapons is ridiculous as well. We have the National Guard and the U. S. Military, who if I remember correctly, consists of us—and they (we) have access to those weapons in that fashion. So apparently, the gun lobby is afraid of us taking over our own country. Now that makes no sense at all.

Finally, why does the gun lobby and the NRA have so much power? They number about four million members and the rest of the country outnumbers them significantly, and most disagree with their position. So why do they exert so much influence, far out of balance with their numbers. That is a question which must be addressed soon and the situation changed immediately.

Bill February 15, 2013 at 02:17 pm
Could President Obama pass the background check? He has control of the nations nuclear weapons. He is an admited drug user.
Shane February 15, 2013 at 02:24 pm
Jay Berman, the AR-15 is only good for killing many people quickly. Explain the need to have to do that? First off if someone busted down your door, how long would it take to get your rifle, unlock the cabinet, pick up the weapon....now your dead. You can't carry the weapon openly. So if your assaulted on the street, you can't reach in your pocket and take it out. It has no realistic use except shooting and any target practice where you need a semi-automatic weapon to accurately hit the target defeats the purpose. The purpose of a semi-automatic weapon is the same as a rocket launcher, a mortar, a heavy machine gun.....to kill many people quickly....so tell us what real purpose you need it for. As Scalia stated on the Court, the 2ND Amendment has limits.
David Shisler February 15, 2013 at 05:43 pm
Shane you assume a lot. I think many people are worried about this country and where it's headed, there seems to be divisiveness everywhere one looks, I know I would feel safer with an AR-15 in a roit situation, (my door being busted down) then having a hand gun. Oh and by the way it would already be loaded before they busted into my home. And what makes you think Ar-15 owners would be carrying it out on the streets, do you expect things to get that bad, if so you might want to purchase one yourself.
Arthur Spooner February 15, 2013 at 05:57 pm
If Shane cannot have a gun, then no one can. He is your typical liberal. Either we all get it or no one does. Its not fair you have a BMW and I only have a KIA. Whah!
Dave Peters February 15, 2013 at 06:11 pm
Really "Shane"? Only good for killing people? I have a friend who dispatches coyote with an AR-15 on a regular basis. Very accurate, little recoil, and usually able to pick off a second coyote because of quick target reacquisition. I think what your confusing is that an AR-15 is meant for small to medium sized game. Unfortunately the human body falls into the medium size game category as far as animals go.
Bill February 15, 2013 at 07:10 pm
Better to have it and not need it , than to need it and not have it . Because when u need it. You will really really need it . Life or death .
Unincorporated February 15, 2013 at 07:44 pm
Shane is correct. An AR-15 is for "killing many people quickly." Unfortuanately David is correct too "I would feel safer with an AR-15 in a riot situation." We live in a world that cannot be completely controlled by oneself or the government. We are the government and people have forgotten how to govern themselves. I'm still not comfortable with giving up my freedoms after having visited Dachau in the 1980s and experiencing the LA riots first hand.
Shane February 15, 2013 at 09:15 pm
Unincorporated did you did an assault rifle during the LA riots? How many people did you have to shoot?
N1smo2go February 15, 2013 at 09:19 pm
Let's get one thing straight here. Any weapon can be used to kill people quickly. As a Marine that served 8 years on active duty, and served in the Middle East, I can tell you what the difference is between my M-16 issue and my two AR-15's I have at home and why I have the right to own them.
First of all the M-16 is selectable fire with a semi automatic mode and burst mode firing 3 rounds. In theater I rarirly used 3 burst mode simply because of accuracy. My stock was standard and it was outfitted wth a optics and a forward grip for stability. The standard 30 round magazines that are issued were hardly filled with 30 rounds, more like 27-28 because they would jam up. My AR-15's at home are similiar "looking" but much different, they are semi-auto matic single shot per pull of trigger with 20 round magazines. I have 20 magazines each filled when I go target shooting or want an adrenaline rush for "SPORT", to shoot off as many as I can and work on my own speed reloading drills. Not to shoot people! It has optics and a collapsible stock. I also chose the AR-15 as a PDW because familiarity and ease of use and cleaning and I know it like the back of my hand, when thinking of the M-16. People do not have to fear me with my weapons, only intruders in my home. I can get to any one of my PDW's in my home within 5 seconds. Knowing the secure boundaries of my home and ideal areas to be, in the event of an intruder coming in to my home helps protect my family.
N1smo2go February 15, 2013 at 09:26 pm
As trained Marine, with knowledge of small arms and explosives. If I was going to inflict mass casualty on "society" my weapon would be used only for defense of me, I would resort to other means. Using my AR-15 was also the best weapon to have when I went on a feril hog hunt 3 years ago. I was able to get shots off quickly and accurately, and was able to enjoy good bbq allyear long because of it. Guns are not the problem, people are and always will be. Taking away guns of a certain type because of a few evil people chose them for their criminal deed is wrong. I know for a certainty where I live, police are 5-6 minutes away. My PDW's are the first line of defense to stave of a home intruder while I wait for police to arrive. I would call anyone that does not or have not lived in an environment with high crime or gun violence foolish to comment on topics that they have either no idea what they are talking about or never experienced. The fact that people are killed daily by guns is a problem, but too many people do not focus on the criminal element because it's easy to gloss over. I can't go out and buy automatic weapons and would have no need for them. But unlike many of people, I would dare ask, how many people have trained or practiced emergency plans in their homes in the event of a home invasion robbery or intruder breaking in. This is the society we live in and if you don't think it will never happen to you, you are nieve. Responsible gun owners are not responsible
N1smo2go February 15, 2013 at 09:31 pm
for the mass murders that have occurred in the last few years. We use our guns for protection, sport, hunting, recreational shooting and an adrenaline rush. I rather shoot off 200 rounds than jump out of a plane with a parachute for my rush. That is all i use them for. Liberals are trying to bully honest abiding citizens when they are not the issue. Point blank we have alot of bad Americans in this country that will do any of us harm at any time and crime is relevant and real. As soon as we make them the target the quicker we will stop having this stupid gun debate. People and their free will hurt others is the problem, and we have a problem in this country with those people, not we responsible gun owners. We need to point fingers and be honest and say that the criminal element in this country is the problem.
Libi Uremovic February 15, 2013 at 09:42 pm
you boys sound like a bunch of 10 year olds talking about shooting animals...
have any of you ever actually had a use for a weapon....and no, the boogie man and killer squirrels don't count ...
Libi Uremovic February 15, 2013 at 09:47 pm
the criminal element in this country isn't the problem...mass murders are being carried out by legal weapons owners....
at least criminals have a use for their weapons ... and show some entrepreneur spirit...
Jay Berman February 15, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Shane, you have no idea what you are talking about ... and you have no right to tell me what I need and what I don't ... I can do more damage and fire faster, aquire my targets faster with my Ruger 9mm semi automatic handgun ... another thing .. there is no difference between a .223 Caliber semi automatic huting rifle and an AR-15 except the way they look ... Rifles have better range accuracy that a handgun ... I you don't want to own or shoot a firearm, fine ... goody for you but don't tell me what I should shoot as you don't have a clue ...
Jay Berman February 15, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Very good Bill ....
Rick Jones February 15, 2013 at 11:36 pm
This is a sad discussion by people that have no idea what guns are for in American Society!
Arthur Spooner February 16, 2013 at 12:20 am
Shane has, he claims to have been in vietnam.
Jay Berman February 16, 2013 at 01:05 am
I have a Marlin 22 rifle .. great for varmints ... I can't beleive Shane was in Vietnam .. sounds like a young progressive ...
gringo February 16, 2013 at 04:37 pm
Very poor and misleading article. The first paragraph is completely false. Do some real research before you spew your opinion.
Shane February 16, 2013 at 08:52 pm
Art, prove I ever claimed anything like that. It would be like me saying that you and Ronald Reagan were best friends.
White House immigration bill offers path to residency. LOL!! AMNESTY is coming within eight years of the bill being passed!!! Lets see if the Right Wing loons, the Extremist Tea Party, the Conservative Skin Heads and Racists go all out for this bill???? If they don't they will NEVER win another Presidential election again and if they do they will never win another State election in a border state again.......I LOVE IT!!!
Shane February 16, 2013 at 08:59 pm
That's right responsible gun owners ARE NOT responsible. Thats why we need to remove any weapons that can kill quickly. Thats why you can't land mine your yard, or set up barbed wire around it, or set up machine gun bunkers.
What isn't being done to criminals with guns.....are the police not searching for them?? I just heard today there was a gang sweep in the area that resulted in many arrests? Are courts and judges going too easy on criminals. Conservonuts love to throw out blanket statements that hold no truth......thats why the NRA is being laughed at. Thats why the majority of the American public wants stronger gun laws.....it includes a majority of NRA members.....so don't listen to the whining of the right and HELP ban assault rifles and extended clips. Background checks are already being negotiated by a bi-partisan group of Senators......IT WILL HAPPEN!
TGB February 17, 2013 at 03:14 pm
We all draw lines on what is acceptable and what is not. Using the reductio ad absurdum argument, is there anyone who thinks a private individual should own a nuclear weapon? How about a flamethrower, a howitzer or a rocket propelled grenade? It all come down to where society draws the line on what is acceptable to own and what is not. The current debate is trying to find that line and right now it appears to be somewhere around semi automatic weapons. There will always be those on both extremes, those who want total availability of any weapon of any kind and those who want no weapons of any kind allowed to be owned by private individuals. Society as a whole needs to find the line which is acceptable to the majority of its members.
jill smith February 18, 2013 at 01:21 am
Fast and Furious was not acceptable to me, but it was acceptable to the president that does not deserve our trust. Obama is the one that was over seeing guns placed in the hands of drug cartels.
jill smith February 18, 2013 at 01:21 am
Fast and Furious was not acceptable to me, but it was acceptable to the president that does not deserve our trust. Obama is the one that was over seeing guns placed in the hands of drug cartels.
Dan Avery February 19, 2013 at 03:35 pm
There was a time in this country when The Dumb and the Willfully Ignorant worked on assembly lines and wanted nothing more when they got off work other than "Miller Time," a woman with a retarded sense of morality, and a double=wide they could call "home." Then can downsizing, outsourcing, Bush the Second's devaluation of the dollar, and the economic collapse of 2008.
Now The Dumb and the Willfully Ignorant are unemployable so they spend their days comment on the Patch. Even when the article deals with topics they know nothing of; they live to spew their ignorance and hatred. They don't use their real names because they claim speaking your mind can be dangerous. Tell that to Martin Luther King, Jr. Malcolm X, Nathan Hale, Thomas Paine... They are cowards and like all cowards they bully if you point out their complete lack of logic. They ruin online communication and any chance we may have had to learn from each other. They will continue to do so until we stand up and shout them down.
Ray Hayashi February 20, 2013 at 09:00 pm
Untrue, the people behind the scenes do want to ban all guns:
The Brady Campaign emerged from Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI), originally the National Council to Control Handguns (NCCH), and the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence (CPHV). NCCH was founded in 1974 by Dr. Mark Borinsky, a victim of gun violence, and became HCI in 1980.[4] On June 14, 2001, Handgun Control, Inc. was renamed the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence in honor of Sarah and Jim Brady.[4] On October 1, 2001, it incorporated the Million Mom March.[5] "We will take one step at a time, and the first is necessary - given the political realities – very modest. We’ll have to start working again to strengthen the law, and again strengthen the next law and again and again. Our ultimate goal, total control of handguns is going to take time. The first problem is to slow down production and sales. Next is to get registration. The final is to make possession of all handguns and ammunition (with a few exceptions) totally illegal." Pete Shields chairman HGC 1976 (Wikipedia)
Ray Hayashi February 20, 2013 at 09:05 pm
remember the guys that defended thier shops, the rioters decided to find easier game...
Frank H. Robles February 21, 2013 at 09:06 pm
The NRA yields much power today not because they represent the the 4 million members that pay 25 dollars per. year, but they represent the Gun Industry which is a 12 Billion business. They became " Not Your Fathers NRA " back in the Mid 90's. When then President Regan, along with former President's Ford and Carter urge'd Congress to support a ban on assault weapons. Later George H.W.Bush " Lifetime Member " left the NRA, after Wayne Pierre comments " Jack Booted Thug's that have a badge and the government's go-heed to Harass, Intimidate, even muder law abiding citizens" Over the past 2 decades they have really gone after the gun industry, the NRA always shows yearly income of 200 Million - 250 Million ...!!!
Bret D. Rijke February 24, 2013 at 08:54 am
@Frank H. Robles;
You wrote; "...after Wayne Pierre comments " Jack Booted Thug's that have a badge and the government's go-heed to Harass, Intimidate, even muder law abiding citizens" And is he wrong? Have you not been reading what the BATF has been doing over the last few years? Or how about the "Fast and Furious" deal? Or the multiple incidents of police corruption and violence in the nation over the last 10+ years? When the assigned government agencies begin to fail in their duties, or when they begin to abuse their granted authority against the populace they are supposed to protect, then where do the law abiding turn to? I think you give the whole concept of a benevolent government way too much leeway.
Frank H. Robles February 25, 2013 at 02:43 am
Bret......good post, it goes deeper than the question at the end of the main article that I was trying to reply to. Why the NRA has show much Power, they began to partner up with the Big Gun Industry back in the mid-ninties, when Regan and Busch were pro - gun control, The Big Gun Industry began to make large Money dotations. I also was a long time member of the NRA, did not renew with them back then, did not like the direction they were going....!!!!

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