Sandy Hook. Virginia Tech. Columbine. Stockton.
How many more school names shall we remember not for a list of graduates but for the number of children killed?
The answer should be clear – not one more school, not one more child.
In our schools, in our shopping centers and in all our communities, public safety trumps the right of anyone to have an assault weapon designed for the battlefield.
This is one of those defining moments that calls for our elected officials to look beyond polls and into the face of our children and keep them safe from harm.
More than 20 years ago, California State PTA called for the ban on assault weapons following the killings at an elementary school in Stockton.
A gunman opened fire with an AK 47 assault rifle on the playground of Cleveland Elementary School. Five children were killed and many others injured.
Today we renew that call.
California State PTA supports Senator Feinstein’s proposed legislation to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices.
We do not need more guns and ammunition on our school campuses. What we need, especially in California, is more counselors, and mental health services, and smaller class sizes and school nurses.
Let’s not escalate a gun culture. Let’s escalate our support for a safe and high-quality education for all children.
Editor's Note: Carol Kocivar of San Francisco is president of the California State PTA.
I’d love to chime in on your idea that every type of weapon must be classified as defensive or offensive and provide some examples of how that simply cannot be, but it’s pointless. You’ll claim that I’m just arguing because apparently the only legitimate discussion to you is throwing out whatever ideas you have and nobody challenging them. That’s not a discussion, that’s intellectual masturbation, an art form you've perfected. Am I out to prove you wrong? Or anybody else for that matter? No. I’d like to find solutions to these problems, find some common ground we can agree on that provides a path forward. To do so, there should be some common understandings. It’s impossible to get to those common understandings if you have your “facts” and I have mine and we are unwilling to agree on the foundational facts. It’s even more impossible when one side of the debate is unwilling to engage in a fair discussion – that would be you, sir. You’re the one looking for an argument and are trying to prove people wrong. You're looking to "win" the argument and prove your superiority. So, keep on sticking your fingers in your ears and your tongue out at me whenever I have something to say. It reflects well on you.
Now, should others be free to insult and threaten you? Of course not. They should keep their comments to themselves. I just thought you would want to understand why you attract such attention. (If you in-fact enjoy attracting such attention... I think the term is "troll".)
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...michael savage is one of the most intelligent people i've heard on the radio. we are blessed to be able to hear his wisdom m-f on ksfo" Man you are dense, the blog is posted all over the states different Patch locations and not exclusive to socal. Why don't you take your own advice and stick to your own information source from socal instead of listening to talk radio that is broadcast from where? KSFO = Norcal. Quit drinking the bongwater.
For instance using your style and logic. You contend that all weapons are defensive thus are legal to own. I don't want to hear your response (spin). I know thats not what you meant. My point is that is what you consider discussion. In a real moderated debate, not that crap they do for candidates on tv a true debate. I would crush you. There you wouldn't get away with the crap you try here.
For instance using your style and logic. You contend that all weapons are defensive thus are legal to own. I don't want to hear your response (spin). I know thats not what you meant. My point is that is what you consider discussion. In a real moderated debate, not that crap they do for candidates on tv a true debate. I would crush you. There you wouldn't get away with your the crap you try here.
You're right, I say things here I wouldn't say in person. Again, odd thing is, I don't have to in person because nobody attacks me in person the way I am attacked here.
I like the joining bedrooms by a door. She was worried about him and the guns were locked up. Big worry RIGHT! Mark works for GE, that works with Obama administration to employ Chinese people the new frontier for the world banks while we were robbed and crashed. PATCH is state wide it's up to it's area Ed's what is fit to print.
I find your post to DP that you want peoples post's to stay up forever to show what the poster is all about. You deleted a whole discussion when you trapped yourself lol. Talk about a hypocrite.
Buck up like I said you can always fantasize lol
oh my gosh! what a revelation. self-absorbed, drama queen, flamboyant, constantly whining, pro homosexual, pro same-sex marriage. it all adds up. markymark, are you...i mean...who knew?!?!
My solution is to not re-elect anyone! or allow them to move upwards, sideways or downward into any other political office and possibly government service. When these clown doctors start looking at it as a temp job they will have to be more careful because very soon the laws they pass will apply to them. Extreme Policies - Like Obama Care? Drone Strikes on US Citizens without due process? Illegal Foreign wars? etc. etc. I'd like to address your statement. " The fundamental flaw with this tactic is the overwhelming majority of Americans know the difference between our government and that of other countries in world." IS FALSE - I ran for Congress in 2008 and based on my talking with hundreds of people they know more about the Lakers than they do about our Government. It's even worst than that, the person currently in the White House called us a Democracy - FYI - We are a Constitutional Republic - Huge Difference. Best regards, Smitty
Your right. These discussions do take a few turns and twist. Your dealing with humans for the most part ;) In an attempt to return the discussion to the PTA, maybe they should be more concerned about the number of children dropping out of school (45% in areas), the sexual abuse by teachers on students, the Unions grasp on the education system (which turns out substandard students), and the misuse of the excessive funding they currently have. I'm game for solutions - You? Best regards, Smitty
8:52 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013 "With that said it looks like you are now the poster child for conservative idiot on the Patch." . . There is lots of competition! Arthur Spooner 10:21 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013 "Ooooohhhhhhh is that a threat?? One Voice, are you quivering?? The last thing I have ever been afraid of is a liberal. Bring it on!!" http://lakeelsinore-wildomar.patch.com/users/arthur-spooner/comments
(White on rice buddy!)
And to say that they should speak out on the AWB because there have been shootings on school campuses is just silly. Should they have a position on air pollution because it affects people breathing on campus? Should they have a position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because some students are Jewish or there is a Palestinian club on campus? Should they have a position on the gear ratios in a '68 GTO because there is, after all, auto shop on campus? The PTA has, for the most part, been an organization where people of many backgrounds could get together and work for the betterment of schools and the education of the kids. This move divides people and, in my opinion, will hurt the PTA in the long run.
10:49 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 "What is absurd is for an organization to take sides on a controversial issue that is not even part of their core mission......And to say that they should speak out on the AWB because there have been shootings on school campuses is just silly. Should they have a position on air pollution because it affects people breathing on campus? Should they have a position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because some students are Jewish or there is a Palestinian club on campus? Should they have a position on the gear ratios in a '68 GTO because there is, after all, auto shop on campus?" ...................................................................................... Should they have a position that there maybe drug and alcohol abuse on campus? Should they have a concern about there maybe a convicted sexual predator hired as a teacher? How silly. They should concentrate on school dances and bake sale fundraising and STFU.