Craigslist Killing Suspects Plead Not Guilty in Death of La Jolla High Grad
Rashon Abernathy, Seandell Jones and Shaquille Jordan, all 17 years old, are held on $5 million bail and face 50 years to life in prison if convicted.
Three 17-year-olds accused of posing as sellers on Craigslist and robbing an 18-year old La Jolla High graduate and his girlfriend, then allegedly shooting the man to death when he tried to follow their vehicle to get a license plate number, have pleaded not guilty today in adult court to charges related to the death and robbery, including gang allegations.
Rashon Abernathy, Seandell Jones and Shaquille Jordan are all held on $5 million bail and face 50 years to life in prison if convicted.
The three teens were arrested Wednesday night on suspicion of killing Garrett Berki, a 2010 La Jolla High grad, after allegedly luring him to the Paradise Hills neighborhood of San Diego by posing as sellers on Craigslist, according to police reports.
Berki, a Mesa College student who lived with his mother in Mission Beach, had reportedly gone with his girlfriend to the eastern San Diego neighborhood to buy an item he had seen for sale online. At the prearranged meeting location, Abernathy, Jones and Jordan allegedly pretended to sell the item before pulling out a gun and demanding cash and cell phones, according to police.
The three suspects reportedly fled the scene in a green Honda. Berki reportedly followed their vehicle for a mile to try to get the license plate number. The two cars drove into a cul-de-sac near Parkside Park and the Honda circled around and headed back toward Berki’s car, according to police reports.
As the vehicles were next to each other, one of the three suspects allegedly fired a shot that struck Berki, according to Lt. Kevin Rooney of the San Diego Police Department. The victim’s girlfriend was present throughout the incident and was unharmed, but her name was not released.
After the gunshot, the three suspects reportedly drove away from the cul-de-sac for a short distance before losing control of the car on the 3000 block of Fleming Way and fleeing on foot.
Officers searched the area by ground and air with a helicopter. The three suspects were arrested about a block from the site of the crash.
City News Service contributed to this report.
gigi collins
11:50 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is awful. I hope they get the maximum. God bless the family of this young man and his girlfriend
Sandra Cannon
11:52 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
R.I.P. Our condolence's to the family and friend's, so sorry for your tragic loss.
lorraine
12:20 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Amen
David Antonini
11:56 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
They should all get death !!! I am sick of all the crime. You cannot do anything in any major city for fear of being beaten or shot. My heart goes out to his girlfriend and mom !!!!
Jamie Patch
10:20 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
My heart goes out to Garretts family as well. I can't even imagine losing a child this way! The world's just like the Bible said it would be in the last days." Critical times hard to deal with, Men will be lovers of themselves & money, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, HAVING NO NATURAL AFFECTION, no self-control, fierce, WITHOUT LOVE OF GOODNESS, betrayers, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God." (2 Timothy 3:1-4).
It's so sad to see these things EVERYWHERE around us! Daniel 2:44 says "God will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin, and it will crush and PUT AN END to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite." The good part is at Psalms 37: 10&11 it says " JUST A LITTLE WHILE LONGER, AND THE WICKED ONE WILL BE NO MORE, the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will find their exquisite delight IN THE ABUNDANCE OF PEACE. " That is something we can all look forward too!!!
I hope that Garrett's family can take a little comfort in knowing that they will get to be with him again!! John 5:28 & 29 says" Do not marvel at this ,the hour is coming when ALL those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good to a resurection OF LIFE, those who practiced vile to one of judgment".
This family is enduring so much!! I eagerly look forward to the day when Jehovah God resurects all those that are sleeping in death!! And look forward to the day when Garrett will live again!!!
Jean
11:56 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Such a horrible waste of a young man's life, so many good things he will never experience. It makes me so very angry and sad.
mindy
4:47 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
amen to that jean,so sad my heart goes out to his parents and extended family..................evil lurks everywhere,as the mom of 2 children, i would be devasted if anything happened to them..............praying for their strength...................and may justice be served for the animals that did this awful thing.................
star1922
12:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
there is away some on here with black and white you are all people committes murders i wish that people would stop buying things on craigslist there have been so many people getting kill like guy that was killing all those ladys so sad ,and if you do buy anything made your deal at the police station.
Ross Ewage
12:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
how about life...in the electric chair?
Argnus
2:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I agree, but I would bet that they file second degree murder charges against the shooter based on the fact that the victim followed the three thugs in his car. The other two might get off with strong armed robbery and be out in 15 years. Sad...
Julez Julian
7:38 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
@Argnus I'll take that bet!
turbo
12:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yes it's sad. Very sad. And I hope those three thugs get the book thrown at 'em. But c'mon folks. Can you really blame this on Craigslist? Are you suggesting this type of crime did not occur prior to Craigslist?
Bill
12:31 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It occurs in other venues all the time, much more often than craigslist.
Julez Julian
7:40 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
@turbo you right before Craigslist some criminals used the local classifieds to commit crimes.
Mac
12:02 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Firearms enhancement, gang activity enhancement (if there isn't one, there ought to be) = Death Row for this trio...or it should.
Barb Visk
7:24 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
People are asking where were these kids parents ? Why didn't they teach them anything about dealing with others? Well I can tell you these kids probably raised themselves. Their parents (well actually their mother was probably the only one around) was either at work all day or in jail. Now there are never any parents around to raise kids and this kind of thing is what results. My prayers go out to Garretts family and to families in the future who will have to deal with this same type of tragedy because of the loss of the structure of a good family home.
Patricia
12:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Please, all you young people, stay away from Craigslist. Don't you remember the "Craigslist Killer"??? You put your lives in danger by meeting someone from an on-line advertisement. GO TO THE STORE AND BUY WHAT YOU NEED!!!! PLEASE. Spare your parents news of your death!
julie grove
12:06 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
These guys are pure cowards!! If the boy they shot would have had a gun, they wouldnt have even tried it.
why do cowards have to have 2 or more to get brave? Best thing for these guys is to face someone with a gun and then start at their feet and work upward
George Sparrow
12:06 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
If these a--holes would get off their dead asses and get a job, like the rest of us. They wouldn't have to rob anyone. But it is so much easier to rob people. These people need the death sentence, no jail time.
Texas NDN
12:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
George, you are right. They SHOULD get the death penalty. I believe though, the state of Calif. is part of the 9th Judicial District. They'll probably get life & be out in 10 years.
Scott Zwartz
4:18 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Dear Texas NDN:
There is no such thing as the 9th Judicial District. Perhaps you are attempting to refer to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals which covers Hawaii, Washington, California, Alaska, Idaho, Nevada, Montana, Arizona and Oregon. Quite a large area to stereotype, don't you think? If so, that is the federal court system and murder is a state offense so that they will be prosecuted in the Superior Court of California, County of San Diego. (Sometimes, murders can be prosecuted by the Feds if it also is a deprivation of civil rights.)
San Diego happens to have the most professional and ethical District Attorney Offices in the entire state. San Diego's District Court of Appeals, however, is very conservative and quite pro-death penalty.
jhonte
10:26 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
its crazy because you people sit on your computer and gossip about shit that has nothing to do with you MIND your fukn buissnes and let the police officers do wat the fck they gotta do . and worry about what you have to do with your life and stop worrying about waat the fck everyone else is doeen shit !
Wendy
12:07 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I feel very sad for this family and their loss of such a young life. My husband and I have purchased items from Craigslist, however we always meet in a public area. We have met people in a grocery store parking lot, in the parking lot of the police station, and even a Walmart lot. These places have cameras. Please be safe and take all precautions. If you sell an item, have them contact you through e-mail only or your phone numbers can be traced back to you. God bless and be safe.
Duke Nukem
12:07 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Why not have pictures of the suspects (Rashon Abernathy, Seandell Jones and Shaquille Jordan)?
Why only the victim's picture?
Is it a race issue?
Texas NDN
12:11 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Could be wrong but I would say it's because of their age. Most times when they're under 18, their pics aren't posted.
Duke Nukem
12:22 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The only picture they show here of the suspects are their arms indicating their race:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/3-Teens-Charged-in-Craigslist-Murder-121810474.html
Duke Nukem
12:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Texas NDN: You're wrong.
In the article below, Lionel Tate was 12 when he committed his crime and 17 when this article including his picture was published:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/29/national/main596591.shtml
jhonte
10:29 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
bieetch its been a race issues since the world has fukn started you white people are always trying to bring black people down why ? because were better than you races Muhfkas we must be doing something right for you white trailer trash pigs to always try to bring us down but we always find the strength to get back Up
Red Rock Bob
12:07 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
CHARLES , YOU GOT THAT RIGHT
CACTUS
12:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
LIKE I TELL MY KIDS, NEVER EVER GO TO PARADISE HILLS, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TERRIBLE THING THAT HAPPENS THERE.
IF YOUR NOT FROM THE AREA, NEVER NEVER EVER GO THERE. THE PLACE IS NOT SAFE AT NIGHT. DON'T EVEN DRIVE THROUGH UNLESS YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE.
I.
12:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
while there are people who are crazy about craigslist it is still a place used to attract people into illegal and/or dangerous situations. i received some checks by accident (my bank, someone else's account) when i looked up the people they were written to on craigslist they proved to be whores who advertised with nude pictures of themselves and their 'merchandise'.
i am not a prude, but with the constant flaps in the media about cleaning up the internet why can't the authorities in each jurisdiction where craigslist contains whores, etc. advertisements that contravene local codes/laws take action? if they can arrest hookers on the street they can arrest locals with ads on craigslist.
Ishtiaq A Chisti
12:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
My heart goes out to the needless and tragic death of an innocent young man and the emotional loss to his family (& probably material loss in lost income) and girlfriend and others who loved him. Goes to show guns are not necessarily used to shoot animals and bad guys...why do 17-year olds possess guns in San Diego? Now my taxes will go up by another $500,000 (or more) to try and incarcerate these depraved young men. Probably also ruined the lives of those close to these idiots.
Kathy
12:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I think it is so sad that we cannot trust anyone in this day and age. I'm sorry for the loss to the girlfriend and his friends and family. These stories are so unbelievable to me and still these things happen all the time.
s m thacker
12:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
pay for their court appointed attorneys,drag it out for years,send them to wherever, where they can watch tv and play basketballl in the rec. yard. The American Way!
after all they didn't murder YOUR son,just someone else's.NO i do not know anyone involved.This is what our country has become,because hoodlums are smacked on the hand .
jhonte
10:32 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
no bietch are world is like this because people like you dont know how to mind your damn buissness and stop worrying bout what the fck every1 elese is doen & get yo BIG nose ass some buisness !
Dan
12:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Craigslist is not a bad site it is the idoits who abuse the use of it that are bad!! when buying anything from craigslist or even selling anything or meeting someone always do it in a group of people and have protection of some sort dont go by yourself or with just one other person have 2 or 3 or even 4 other people go with you there are good people i this world but they are a dying breed and as far as you who make racists comments god created man and we ALL came from the man and woman god created adam and eve our skin may be different colors are speech may be different but we all bleed red so get off of your high horse and smell the roses for to god just as the roses smell the same to all of us we all are the same creatures god created
Scott Zwartz
4:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I did not notice the article saying what the victim wanted to buy. BTW he was not murdered in order to steal his money, but to prevent him from turning them into the police. Yes, they are vicious criminals, but he had to know that -- they had just committed an armed robbery against him!
You don't put your hand into the mouth of a rabid dog. Nothing justifies the murder, but a vile murder does not require us to close our eyes to all the facts.
Texas NDN
12:10 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
My prayers go out to this young man's family & his girlfriend. I feel blessed for having been able to leave a state where this sort of thing happens all too often.
Bob Villa
12:10 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Why does the name have to black? They could be White muslim names which alot of blacks name their children after. I have met a white guys Named Rashid, one named Damarcus, Jermaine, andMalcom. Look at Malcom in the Middle and Malcom is a muslim name. So You can't say that they are N%$!a's or whatever Where did you get your education because you seriously need a refund I see it was all about quantity and not quality. And God does give store credits for sense and common sense when you'll exchange your Idiosyncrasies.
Lee
6:04 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
Bob, i see where you are going with this you want people to understand that names don't always = black people, however, if they are black it is what it is......unfotunately.
Technically speaking, the "N" word should not be used at all. The meaning behind the usage of this word is UGLY! Slave owners used it in a derrogative way, but in some spanish countries and here the US "Negro" is used in an affectionate way.
I guess this is what happens when one American is killed by another American(s), it was their skin color that did it.....mmmm....let me put that in my mental dictionary.
To the ones that did commit the crime and may have family members or friends reading these comments. They need to be locked up, but i don't think that's enough. They also need to understand the ramifications of what they have done to their families and what they have done to the Black race...giving them another reason to hate us! Stop the madness people, get it together.
edward
3:30 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
Ok now you're just being plain ridiculous.
Freda
12:11 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is so tragic. My heart goes out to Garrett's family and friends. This isn't a hate crime because they didn't target any race, religion, or sexual orientation...He was probably the first one to respond to their listing...In this day and time it shouldn't matter what color any of them are! They should be punished and I think the death penality should be an option because it was planned. Being that it was also an internet crime, shouldn't they have moore charges too...
Carol
4:11 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You're absolutely right. The crime to steal and defraud was planned using the internet which should bring some federal charges too.
Jimmy
12:12 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
sherwoodb666 You are satanic and foolish I don't know what race you are but I don't think any would be proud to claim you. Murder is sin and all of the human race is sinful. Jeffery Duma wasn't black. All the killers in the schools over the pst several years was not black. The craiglist killers who kill and rape those woman was not black. There are several programs on tv that re inact murders 1oo% of the ones I have seen dealing with husbands and wives killing each other for insurance money or any other stupied reason were not black. Should I go on the BTK Killer, and green river killer, the pilgrims and the list go on and on. So are you blind or just stupied?
Scott Zwartz
4:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
They think Charlie Manson was Black
eric
12:13 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
sad to hear about the kid dying... about the 3 black man... that killed this kid... if found guilty (god knows how this trial will go according to the laws in the US) I dont wish death upon anybody but a person that takes another's life should be held accountable with their own.
Greg
12:13 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Here are three lifers now a part of the CRJ system for the next 60 years. Make an example of them. These punks only understand street justice.
Jess McIlroy
12:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I feel as though they should just shut down Craigslist. I don't even know how many incidents have been reported because of an injury, killing or simply being ripped off.
Prayers go out to family and friends of Garrett Berki.
Mehy
12:16 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It is extremely sad to hear about such a horrible crime. No mater white or black, we need to get out there and vote the right people into office. We need more conservatives in office, they will put an end to people that take advantage of the system and are to lazy to contibute to society other than robbing and killing. People, poor or not, get educated about politics and make this the great country it used to be. Be proactive about the right things, not constantly using and abusing one another, that includes the system. It all comes back to us one way or the other. Remember politicans work for us, not the other way around. Anything and everything that is being implemented thru the goverment is costing us/you the taxpayer money(including their salaries).
Gods servant
12:16 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
no matter wat we should forgive them for we all sin, no sin is greater then any sin..sin is SIN..no matter now bad we want to messed them fools up we and the family of the man that passed away need to forgive them becasue when this world ends and GOD says you didnt forgive them three men why should i forgive you??think about it...its soo hard but we need to do that...stay blessed and God bless the family of the victim...
Les Hendrickson
12:16 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It's idiots like these that give black people a bad rep. I bet they listened to rap all day long and then some. Rap idolizes laziness, racism, rape, drugs, robbery, you name it, anything that's against the law will be in a rap song somewhere. So, where did these kids get the idea of fast money? Think about it.
edward
3:32 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
@Z: It wasn't white kids. Black kids commit half of the murders in this country and most of the violent crime. These are facts go to the FBI site. Talking about mythical white guys just obfuscate the real problem of Black perpetrated murder.
Laura
12:17 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is so sad and scary. I literally just got home from a Craigslist transaction. I bought a beautiful Thomas Kinkade picture, and we emailed about meeting, met at a restaraunt right off the highway exit, I took my husband and kids with me, she had her kids with her. We spoke for less than 5 mins, made the transaction, and went on our way. It was so sad to see this story as I got home from doing the same thing this poor young man was thinking he was doing. How sad that this world has gone so bad. We have to be so careful these days, and protect our children from all the sick and crazy people in the world. My heart goes out to this young man and his family.
Derek
12:17 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
that is such a shame, and a loss over just a so called sale, what the hell is this world coming to and what the hell is wrong with people, this poor inoccent man died all because he wanted to buy something, i hate on people that do this, why does god put people like this on earth, they are damned to hell and thats all they will get. Seems that no matter where you go, or what you do, you are a target. Whats next? Yard Salers trying to make a buck for their family? Going to go rob and shoot them too?!?!?!?
patricia owens
12:17 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
ENOUGH with the racists remarks!!!! This is a killing of a young man who had his whole life ahead of him. It doesn't matter if he is white, black, indian or Asian...what matters is that someone took a life and they should pay for that crime regardless of who they are. This is 2011 people.. time to put the racists remarksd to rest and work together to keep our country and homes safe.
Samantha
1:42 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Amen.
beth ritter
3:42 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Sorry Patricia, the only ones who continuously perpetuate the race issue are the blacks...When something doesn't go their way they cry racism...
frank larvae
12:18 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
this is so terrible. i cant believe someone had the heart to shoot such a loved man. My condolences to the family and friends.
Jello
12:18 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Sick, Sick, Sick. Most of these kids today are Dragged Up and not taught anything about the quality of life. They have no regard for anything or anyone - just themselves. They should be shot and rot in hell.
Jean
12:18 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Takes all kinds to make a race look bad; a note here of an encounter when I was turning off of a street to go into a parking lot next to a city building; the drive through was taken up on both sides by a SUV with a black family inside and two on the outside talking and laughing and talking some more. They would not move to let me pass. Instead they just continued to carry on their conversations noting my appearance with no consideration whatsoever. I waited for several minutes as cars whizzed past me and finally had to back up and go into another opening into this parking lot. They were still in that space when I finally got into a parking space. So much for the racism theories that race is not a factor. I believe they were just as racist when they saw i was a white 70 year old woman. Either that was the reason or they were just plain so full of themselves and to hang with anyone else.
LESLIE
3:22 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Umm, you are wrong lady, I have been done like that too and I am an African American woman and a clinical social worker. They were probably just inconsiderate and ghetto, about the equvalent of trailer trash. Classeless people comes in all races. If you are not raised right then you are disrespectful trash. Bottomline.... Maybe you need to watch a day of Investigation Discovery, you really have to be leary of everyone, even your clean cut church going neighbor. You never know they could be a serial killer or rapist.
edward
3:37 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
I'm Black (but parents are African) Jean and agree 100% with you. I live in PG in Maryland and have experienced the selfishness and plain rudeness exhibited by Black Americans. I'll say though you're wrong in that they'll do it to anyone Black or White.
If this kid had just stayed away from them he would be alive. When I sold my car on Craigslist and a Black person showed up, I had my 9mm prominently displayed. I do not play with these people. They have lost their minds and normal human civility is lost on them. Out here they killed a deliveryman for pizza and chicken wings. I kid you not. It's just not worth the risk.
Frannie Ross
12:19 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
So horribly sad that we cannot even protect our children in so called "safer and high end" CA. Aside from that, craigslist has had many unsavory clients that have commited hideous crimes. Garret Berki's memory relates to the fight to defend innocent victims answering an ad on craiglist and ending up dead. t We need to set some higher standards for rules of sale and educate buyers regarding rules of safety regarding internet dangers.
Elizabeth
12:19 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Dear Bill,
First let me start out by saying I will definitely be praying for you. Also let me make it very clear that I am a white woman. I am appalled that you would take this to the extent you have taken it. I am in total agreement that ANYONE: white, black, asian, hispanic, indian, whomever: kills another person deserves to be hung. I also believe that anyone that steals should have the hands cut off and anyone that rapes should be castrated. Stop wasting my money by allowing prisoners to live better than some of the people that work hard to make what little they do. But I don't believe that the comments you made here had any relevence to the situation. Have you not heard of Jeffery Dahmer, Ted Bundy, or Charles Manson? Or hell, Hitler? How are these three boys regardless of color any worse than these other men that were white? The truth is that ANYONE can kill and the color of your skin has no relevence. It's people like you that take our country back hundreds of years. God tells us in the Bible, "Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble." 1 Peter 3:8. Even though your comment was ignorant God still loves you and sent His son to die for your sins, all you have to do is Recieve Him and ask for forgiveness. There is still hope for you. I pray that God will find a way to change your heart. God bless you.
frank larvae
12:25 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Im actully being serious that line "whomever: kills another person deserves to be hung. I also believe that anyone that steals should have the hands cut off and anyone that rapes should be castrated." i read it in the book beastly
Duke Nukem
12:35 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You wrote "deserves to be hung."
That's wrong.
Clothes are "hung," people are "hanged."
Kelly Harris
12:22 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I don't care what color the killers are. The fact is...a beautiful young man was gunned down in front of his girlfriend and now she will never be the same and his poor dear mother will never be the same. This is just so horrible! RIP Garrett
Al St Hilaire
12:23 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
keltec9 Craigslist has to be used carefully. It's full of scams by evil characters. Some end up dead. These3 Ghouls played God by taking a life. One lost life and 3 will hopefully will spend their lives in a gage.
Mike
2:30 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I agree, Craigslist, like life, needs to be used with caution. But Craigslist is not the villain here. I use craigslist frequently and it is an awesome way of selling things that are not so easy to ship, like furniture or firewood. Ebay has its own ways of verifying identity of buyers and sellers. Perhaps Craigslist should at least take a few steps towards user verification, and mybe use a feedback system? However no matter what you do, bad people will still find ways to hurt or kill. Someone made the comment about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson not being there because they only stand up for blacks. That's not entirely true, if they think thay can get publicity or a check out of it, they will be there. Also since this planned & calculated murder was performed by a gang, why not treat the gang as terrorists? they should hunt down the leaders of this gang and shoot them in the head like they did UBL and put their porn collection up for sale on Craigslist. Seal Team 6 can take them out. ha ha ha
kyle
12:23 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is so sad. A young life gone by some punks. They should be placed in jail and have Big Bubba show them the way he feels. I would also like to say, where is your God during all this? They say God is everwhere. Well he/she/it was not there to help this poor young person. Save taxpayers money and shot them immediately.
Derek
12:25 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Im sorry if i affend anyone, but this world has come to shit, and things should be the way it was wayyyy back when it was EYE FOR AN EYE
jeff
1:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
it's "offend", not affend....and as long as this country has this lame, inept, wimpy, and common senseless justice system it will never be "an eye for an eye" ....but u are 100% correct, it damn well should be.
Christopher Reynolds
12:25 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Death sentence.
linda logan
12:25 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I am so sorry this family has lost their son, I will pray for his parents and family every day, May the Lord watch over them every day Linda
RYBEEZY
12:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I wish Seal Team Six could take care of them
Carey
12:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Race has nothing to do with this crime. The perpetrator’s were only out for one thing and it didn't matter whether the victim White, Black, Hispanic or any other race. They were out to rob someone and if that meant killing someone to get what they wanted they were all for it. Craigslist is not bad...it's the fraudulent people posting on Craigslist. Never ever meet at someone's home or have them come to your home. Go to a very populated area and meet. This poor child didn't have enough sense to know what he was getting into wasn't safe. He was angry and infuriated and retaliated by following them which was a bad judgment call that cost him his life but he was reacting as a normal human being would and should not be faulted for that. My condolences to his family and friends who have to live without him the rest of their lives and to his girlfriend who not only witnessed this but has to go through life reliving this horrific event. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. The parents of the perpetrator’s should be very ashamed of the job they did raising their kids and for not teaching them how to be a responsible citizen. If I were their parent I would be disgusted by their behavior and disgusted with myself for not raising them to be a better person. Godspeed Garret Berki. I hope the 3 perpetrator’s that did this to you rot in hell.
Debbie
12:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The question was, "How has Garrett touched your life". I am deeply saddened by the loss of this young man and offer my sincere condolences to his family and friends. I also offer my apologies for what I consider inappropriate postings. I am disappointed that so many of you that see this as an opportunity to talk only about racism and and the shortcomings of craigslist. Whether I agree or disagree with some of the postings, I just don't feel that this is the appropriate place for them. Several postings never even made mention of the tragic loss of a young life. Isn't that really what our comments should be about?
beth ritter
2:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yes Debbie, that is true...but I think people are just sick of seeing crimes like this and facts are facts as far as which race commits more of these types of crimes statistically....You better believe if a gang of white youths did this to some black kid, there would be holy hell being raised!!! Al Sharpton would be having a press conference and so on and so on....I live in NY so I didn't know this young man, but this crime is sickening and tragic and I think the posts here are ways of people expressing their disgust with this crime and how a young life was probably ended over less than $500!
Shawn Mitchell
3:42 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Amen to that Debbie!!!
John
12:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Oh Beleive me there gonna get it from behind when they get into the prison system .fun young and oh how soft...If you hear what iam saying
Joe
12:45 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I hope so!
Kate
12:27 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
My rule about Craig's List is....don't buy anything from anyone unless they can meet you in a POLICE STATION PARKING LOT to show it to you...let the police know when you get there early, that you are just meeting someone outside to buy a possible item off Craigslist...for your own safety!
ciao
11:27 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Good advice, thanks. I have bought/sold a ton of things off CL and had never even given this a 2nd thought. Very naive of me. Condolences to the family of this young man. :(
John Cosgrove
12:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Rasho, Shandel and Shaquille...I know the were not Irish...its reall B.s when you cant even make the comment.. how long 'till we find out these 3 punk asses are all HS drop outs, with lenghthy records...Poor kid should have had the smarts not to go alone ( GF doesnt really count) ..crappy part of twon should have not gone at all...these three punks need to go away for good...im sure pretty soon the story of bad upbringing, no father figure...please and we wonder why we wonder why their is such racism in the USA
Lora
8:57 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Mama was on the news talking about how HER son wasn't responsible, it was the other two, and he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Of course she was black, so I would have to guess that her son is too! When was the last time you heard a parent of a criminal say "He is responsible, and will pay the price for the crimes he committed" ? You won't because we are raising a generation of amoral individuals who think they can do as they please, and then lie about it and maybe get off! The parents are as guilty as the children, for not holding them to their promises and responsibilities, and for taking their part, when they should be saying "You did wrong, and now you have to pay the price".
Joseph Salas
12:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I sincerely feel sorry, and very sadden by the lost of this human being on the hands of some WORTHLESS, SHAMELESS (" Not guilty"... really?) SCAM that roams around our world... But I wish to say that CRAIGSLIST is a very good, safe (if you use your common sense) and opportune w-site where to find and put staff you may need to buy/sale in times of need, or simply things you need make room at your home from!!! STOP CONDEMMNING sites like Craigslist, and PEOPLE USE A BETTER SENSE OF JUDGEMENT as to where, what and with whom you may decide to do business with. THAT'S ALL WHAT THERE IS TO IT!!!
As for these crips>> THEY NEED TO BURN IN HELL (here in earth) alive = DEATH PENALTY; stop waisting our tax dollars in feeding the scam in the already packed jails!!!
Ellen
12:40 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Your right...Craigs List is a great place to buy and sell. Just got to be smart about it.
Always public and always just enough cash and no more.
roberto
12:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Reinstate the draft. Get these drop outs, druggies & idlers in the military & off the streets. It's been proven that enforced rules, regimentation & discipline plus a goal in life can work wonders.
liz
12:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
AMEN to that!!!
Lee
6:31 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
Roberto you are so right about the military, if you don't want to be productive in society and learn and do good, then the military will teach you to be discipline and how to be a productive.
Derek
12:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
being racist?!?!? WHO DO YOU ALL SEE ALL OVER THE NEWS 24/7?
Fernando Perez
12:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is bullshit, how can we consider having a god with the way that this race acts in general. The deceitful behavior, the violence for religion. Religion is bullshit and is the stem of many of the Worlds problems today. Believe what you will, but I want to believe in the human race as a whole. If we all made the world more enjoyable to live in for everyone, how amazing could this place really be...No gods, no miracles, just humans enjoying their time on this remarkable planet, and none of the war, violence would need to take place. The next time you want to blame god, or even someone else and act out violently, just think...I am fucking up the world, and its true, we have all the power, we are the gods, so to speak of this planet, so how about it, we all need to step up. Start today
Eli Padilla
2:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Balla estas palabra salieron de un Latino y quizas Mexicano I like that porque their is just few con esa mentalidad si no son de mi color lo que sale de la boca de ellos es totalmente diferente.
Michelle
12:29 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
What needs to happen...is those guys should be killed the same way they did to that boy! But no us tax payers are going to pay them...oh how I love our country(not)!
Derek
12:30 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
yeah well these days GOD hasnt been here hasnt he??????
maureen
4:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Ha, he has ALWAYS been here, when was the last time YOU gave a shit about HIM? Typical comment, we have been in a period of Divine Mercy and guess what?? It is almost over. Say your prayers people because I assure you you will be begging him for Mercy and it will be too late . Remember that
gino
12:30 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
2 mistakes:
*Never go to a "prearranged" place (trap)
*Never follow the thief (call 911)
Sad, unnecessary
JJ
12:30 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Very sad that this young person with a promising future died so young, but if you are buying something off of Craigslist, at least meet at a place where there is lots of people around like a coffee shop or a shopping mall. That way if someone pulls a gun on you or tries to rob you, there will be lots of witnesses.
jack
12:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I'm sick reading about sensless murders evry single day.
tc
12:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Anyone who kills another person should not deserve to leave . Send to death right away. Why should they get years in prison. That's what's wrong with the justice system. This young man had a whole life ahead of him. My heart goes out to the family.
Derek
12:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
first off, INNOCENT PEOPLE GETTING RAPED, MURDERED, BUTCHERED, TORCHERED, AND EVERYTHING ELSE I CANT THINK OF, including INNOCENT BABIES! where is GOD? for all you religious people? IF GOD IS SO POWERFUL HOW AND THE WORLD WOULD BE LET STUFF HAPPEN TO HIS CHILDREN?!?
Robert Wall
5:02 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Derek, men are given free will by God to make descisions that sure God can intervene to stop. Obviously if He did we wouldn't know it anyway. You view these instances as evidence of God's absence. But in reality, everything that is in us screams for God's existance because we desire justice. why, because we are created in God's image and He is perfectly just. "He will in no wise clear the guilty!" Do you think Bin laden really got Justice? No, Bin laden killed 4000 people and probably more. How, without a transcendant God could bin Laden, hitler, stalin ever get justice? Besides, without the existance of God these men were just practicing survival of the fittest! Derek, no philosopher has been able to demonstrate that the premises, "God exists" and "Evil exists" are incompatible. For God may have suficiant moral reason to allow such tragedies. Reasons that we could never know. The good news is that Jesus Christ came here and suffered unspeakable suffering and therefore it can no longer be said that God does not understand! Frankly, we broke God's law and Christ paid our fine. We need to trust Christ's sacrifice on the cross (as payment for our sin) and turn from evil. Because frankly, no one is innocent. all are guilty of breaking God's standard.
Sam
12:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This country creatated this type of dependence in the 60"s with the introduction of Welfare benefits without a limitation or a way out. We created generations of the haves and the have nots. TV tells certain groups that the are not good enough to be on the tube, school in the inner city are substandard and produce nothing, folk from other countries come over here and dominate with superior education from their country (who took care of them to be competitive)...parents were taught to love....I agree with most on this thread that this motley crew is animalistic like Bundy, Manson, Hillside strangler and wacko in Waco....it's not about race...it's about human depravity...evil.. Uni bomber, 911, serial killers...even the Craigs list killer....not race depravity....let them hang. My condolences to the family.
tired of animals
12:35 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
my sympathy goes out to the Berki family and friends. This is just Another Reason why Capital Punishment needs to beserved quckly. Those ANIMALS, all 3 that took his life DO NOT deserve to live in prison or in society. Till, we start Holding Animals accountable and make them pay severely, this will just be replayed over and over. Why do we have to pay MILLIONS of our Hard Earned Dollars every year to keeps these type of Animals alive. I AM TIRED OF THIS. To many Appeals and sentences that are to light. Swift Hard Justice, and put the saved money, into education, and health coverage for everyone.
Sherri Levin
12:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I never liked Craig's List. Always felt that is it sketchy. This definitely not the fist time something like happened to innocent people using Craig's List. To anyone that uses it - do not meet anyone anywhere except in a very public place (like a mall - and not the parking structure), never have someone come to your house and never go to theirs. If it is a piece of furniture, then meet first and get a "read" on the person. Always let someone know where you are going , address, anywhere. I would not have followed them, but understandably they wanted the license plate number. This is tragic.
tc
12:43 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Amen to that
David
12:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
God has been here and he is still here. You may not know i
Elvis
12:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Craigslist should be shut down. Period.
Poot
4:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
why?
Robert Wall
12:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Everyone is really ignoring the issues at hand. First, I see the word "evil" and "wrong" used everywhere in the comments. But wait, in order for something to be "evil", there must then also be the good. Then we need a way to distinguish between the two. Folks, if we invoke moral law we invoke a moral law giver! It is the inattention to the "moral law giver" that has given way for those not debating God's existance in the "university" to wander away from all meaning, value and virtue in the world. Ideas, truth, have consequences. I submit to you that if the maker of the universe hadn't put restrictions on sexual freedom, few would not follow Him (God) since the ramifications of the moral state of man are so dire without God! It is not about the race or social status - it is everyman ... look how many Carnegie and the other rich tycoons of eras past (and now) have killed. We need to harken back and recognize what is in man! Quote: If chance be the father of all flesh, disaster is his rainbow in the sky, and when you hear state of emergency! Sniper kills ten! troops on rampage! Whites go looting! Bomb blasts school! It is but the sound of man worshiping his maker. Steve Turner (English journalist)
rd
10:08 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Their 'maker' being their human parents you mean? I agree
June Stieber
12:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The only justice would be to put them away for a very, very long time. ---Just street punks with no parental supervision.
jeff
12:44 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
no , the only justice is to either put them away FOREVER or give them the death penalty. no wimpy, common senseless sentences like "a very, very long time" because that turns into about 5 years of prison time. they killed somebody and that means their lives are forfeited....period.
Lora
9:06 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Real justice for this wanton act of depravity, is a public hanging of all three. Molly coddling these punks only makes our laws useless, because without real and swift justice for the victims, something the punk criminals should be afraid to ignore, beating the system is just a game to these fools. A game that makes out society sick to the core. Decent men and women should be safe walking down any public or private street, day or night, without fear. Plain and simple.
Michael Kersey
12:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Only "50 years"? Seems we have a need for organ donors in this country - i can think of three who might (finally) perform a good deed!
jeff
12:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
i know, can u even believe that sentence for 2 minutes???that's our lame, wimpy, inept, and devoid of any common sense "justice system" at work. ....that 50 year sentence will turn into about 5 years, believe me. as long as we have dipshit parole boards, which shouldn't even exist, people like this get a second chance to kill somebody. this country is embarrASSing.
ciao
11:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Interesting though. I kind of like where you're going with this. Do they receive credit for donating a liver, kidney, etc?
Derek
12:37 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
my condolences to his family as well, im ashamed of what this world has become, im ashamed of all of it, trying to make a simple buck on something that someone thought they deserved. want my opinion, you all got it, think about it, theres nothing to say about it, i keep thinkin about my kids, and if this happened to them, eye for an eye, thats what they deserve. This just makes me so upset and sick, because theres nothing anyone can do about it!
Duke Nukem
12:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
If the races were reversed, the crime would be labeled a "hate crime."
jeff
12:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
how the hell was the girlfriend unharmed. that makes no sense whatsoever. that's more than suspicious . she should most certainly be investigated. i'm betting the house she had something to do with the "planning" of this incident.
Argnus
12:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
With all the charged racial comments, most have ignored a central issue. Craig's List is a dangerous site if not used with great caution as Kate suggests. The person who robs you might even be white.
kelaker
12:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Learn from This. Craig's List can be a very dangerous place. I do not know what he was buying but when you show up and there are three thug's waiting for you and you have brought your girlfrien with you, it is about time to turn the car around and leave.
BJ
12:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I'm surely much older than those that posted previous comments, but my view on Craigs List goes with those that wonder why Craigs List attracts this type of viewer. There are other sites where you sell, buy and look at opportunities in to employment and they don't have this rep. There have MANY incidents that go back to Craigs List, more than just a few have ended in death. If this were a business establishment in a city or state, they would long ago have been closed down. How many more of these type of crimes are going to track back to Craigs List until they are shut down? What is there about this particular site that draws this class of people?
amy dinor
12:59 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
BJ you are absolutely right. It should be shut down or worked in a different way that would assure safety.
Jodie
12:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is yet another sad reminder of why I have to continue to educate & communicate w/ my two daughters aqbout the dangers of not the internet but the people who use it to harm others. My heart goes out to his mother & family. The loss of a child is the sadest thing a parent can know. The reasons why they did it makes everyone angry I am sure. :(
H
12:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Seriously people!!! This was meant to be a site to leave comments about Garrett and memories about him. Let's not focus on the criminals in Garrett's memory, but rather Garrett's life and the person he was. Have some respect for his family and girlfriend who are hugely mourning the loss of his short life, save your racial and craigslist comments for a site related to those topics. Maybe try comforting the victims family and girlfriend during this time instead. Peace and strength to Garrett's mother and Girlfriend during this horrific time.
jeff
12:54 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
no, as long as there's only a 50 year sentence there is no "comfort" for anyone...and there most certainly shouldn't be for this kid's family and girlfriend. that lame, wimpy, inept, and common senseless sentence will turn into about 5 to 10 years in prison and i've got news for ya, there's no "comfort" in that. "comfort" would be life without parole or the death penalty...then everybody would be comfortable.
Poot
4:44 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Jeff, you don't mind if we get through a trial first here do ya? I mean, before you decide to get all foaming at the mouth and shyt because they're only going to get five years for a premeditated murder...?
MR. WRIGHT
12:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
YOU KNOW IT IS A SHAME THAT THIS HAD TO HAPPEN. I REALLY AM SORRY FOR THE YOUNG MANS FAMILY. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT THEY DID, BUT MAYBE JUST MAYBE IF THE POLICE AND ALL THE NEWS CREWS OF SAN DIEGO WOULD OF STARTED SHOWING ALL THE SHOOTINGS AND KILLINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN IN ARE NEIGHBOR HOOD FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. WHO KNOWS THIS YOUNG MAN MAYBE WOULD OF THOUGHT TWICE ABOUT COMING DOWN THERE THAT STILL DOESN`T GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY DID,AND THEY SHOULD PAY FOR WHAT THEY DID. BUT PEOPLE LISTEN... WE HAVE BEEN HAVING SHOOTINGS AND KILLINGS ALMOST EVERY NIGHT FOR THE LAST 3 WEEKS AND NOTHING WAS EVER REPORTED ON THE NEWS AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE... WONDER WHY..... WE HAVE BEEN HAVING MOTHERS AND FAMILYS CRYIN OF DEATHS FOR WEEKS NOW WITHOUT ANYTHING SAID ABOUT IT OR DONE ABOUT IT...AND IT TOOK SOMEONE LOOSING THERE LIFE FROM ANOTHER (AREA)BEFORE U HEARD ANYTHING... NOW ITS ON EVERY NEWS CHANEL FRONT PAGE PAPER EVEN ON AOL...DAMN... WONDER WHY...ITS A SHAME...BUT THIS IS WHAT WE GO THROUGH EVERYDAY...MAY THAT YOUNG MAN REST IN PEACE... I`M OUT
MR. WRIGHT
12:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
OHH BY THE WAY I`M WHITE
TJ
12:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
We considered using Criagslist when we decided to sell our home. Because of the down real estate market, we are already selling at a substantial loss, so we had hoped to avoid the real estate commission which will cost us another $16,000+ at settlement. However, when we considered the dangers of allowing strangers into our home and risking the type of situation described in this article, we decided that out safety and security were more important than the extra money. We are comfortable with our decision, and it's kind of nice to have someone else taking care of the showings, the advertising, and the open houses. The wider exposure they are giving our property through the MLS and magazine ads, etc. will also help us to sell faster, get a better price for our home than we would have gotten on our own, and get the contract work done more professionally and expeditiously. More importantly, we are not risking our lives and safety by opening our doors to strangers off the street.
diana fox
12:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It's not being racist when people are identified by their names. There is nothing wrong with that. The Irish have their Irish names, Middle easterners have their unique names; so what is so bad about identifying blacks by the unusual names they choose to use. And yes, proof of blacks committing more crimes is in the percentage of blacks vs. whites in our prisons. what we need to do is rid ourselves of our antiquated justice system and if criminals admit to murders or are seen doing them, just do away with the expense and "rights of the criminal" of having a trial and have an immediate public hanging. This would be a deterrent to someone else trying the same thing and sure would save our government and us tons of money. We'd have plenty of volunteers to do the executions. There's a trial going on right now that is supposed to become the new "trial of the century" because the crime was worse than the one already labelled that, in which I would pay for a trip down there to pull the switch, but no, we must give this murderer her "rights" and give her a chance to get away with it.
Dana
12:59 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
YOU NEED TO PRAY TO GOD THAT YOU DO NOT TEACH THESE RACIST WAYS TO YOUR CHILDREN... THEIR ARE A FAIR AMOUNT OF WRONG DOERS IN ALL RACES.. NOT JUST BLACK MY DEAR..... DONT EVEN MAKE ME GO INTO THE STATICTICS OF SERIAL KILLERS...... SO PLEASE HAVE A HEART THAT SOMEONE DIED AND JUST PRAY THAT HIS FAMILY CAN COPE WITH THEIR LOSS.... UNLEASH YOUR RACIST TIRADE ON SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO HEAR IT... CASE THIS BOARD IS NOT THE PLACE FOR IT!!! SOMEONE IS DEAD.... STOP BEING AN A**HOLE AND RESPECT THE ISSUE AT HAND!!
johnny
1:30 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Maybe dana ought to do a little research on statistics and not rely on the MSM to feed her propaganda as far as serial killers go. And maybe while she's at it, do some research on craiglist robberies and other crimes. She might find out that what she belives to be the truth is not quite accurate. For instance, did you know that in cases where the perp was identified from 2000 to 2009, blacks make up over 40 percent of cop killers but less than 16 percent of total US population? I'm not pulling these out of thin air. Look at the FBI uniform crime reports and the US census. Did you also know that there is no category for Hispanic copkillers? That's right, lumped in under the White category. So when a Hispanic commits a crime, he's white, when he's a victim, he's hispanic.
Lindsay
12:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The hell with 50 to life. These three idiots need to be taken out to the middle of the town, where everyone can watch, and be shot. This is absolutely ridiculous.
At what point is our government going to stop listening to the lobbiest's and take back control. Reimpliment "eye for an eye." Make punishements for crimes more deterrable, and people will stop committing crimes.
No family should have to go through this, it is absolutely heartwrenching. My heart and prayers go out to his mother and family indefinitely. I could not imagine what they are going through.
Poot
4:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Lindsay, the mayor of Hanoi called and wants you to stay in touch.
I hate racist shitheads
12:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Here in town 10 WHITE BOYS all on the all star high school football team jumped a boy in the street and beat him to an inch of his life crushing his skull with brass knuckles.. did they get in trouble.. nope and all got to play the homecoming game the same night the other boy was in the hospital fighting for his life.. the problem is society and poor parenting NOT SKIN COLOR. WHen the boy recovered and was released form the hospital he was removed from school and called an instigator.. WTF is that? Its Bullshit thats what... the boy that was almost killed was black and a good student.. the football players where (a bunch of punk racist shitheads who's parents had money) . Wake up people .. this world is messed up because of what we teach our kids!
Dana
12:56 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
i agree.. RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING A COMPLETE IDIOT!!
beth ritter
2:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Since people are being called racists here because of how they feel lets see...do the facts of whose in jail lie???
The incarceration rate in state or federal prison or jail for men was 1,384 per 100,000 residents, for women 134 per 100,000 residents. The rate for white men was 736 per 100,000, for black men 4,789 per 100,000, for Hispanic men 1,862 per 100,000. The rate for white women was 94 per 100,000, for black women 358 per 100,000, and for Hispanic women 152 per 100,000.
Source: Sabol, William J., PhD, Minton, Todd D., and Harrison, Paige M., Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear 2006 (Washington, DC: US Department of Justice, June 2007), NCJ217675, p. 9, Table 14.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_percentage_of_black_men_in_prison_than_white_men#ixzz1MMh9HTmx
Poot
4:40 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
@beth incarceration rates prove nothing, really... except that people of certain races wind up in jail more often than others... that would be as opposed to being let go.
kathy
12:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It's A shame, My Heart goes out to the victims family. Craigslist to blame or a person Race really..........what it really boils down to is the drug epidemic, which effects all races, all classes and so forth.......The bottom line as long as drugs are available and weak minded individuals the cycle will continue, the cycle a human with the mentality " it will never happen to me" becomes an addict....needs to feed the addiction....crime robbery/death etc.... innocent people harmed, lives destroyed. An eye for eye........You take a person's life then yours should be taken..........why should any of us pay for them to live a stress free life, come on go to prison.........really. Free cable tv, meals, college degrees a plenty that will never be used, roof over there head no worries of utility bills........and so forth, medical and dental. Hmm, i can name a lot more reputable and meaning programs the government/state could invest the $ into.......
jeff
1:25 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
as long as our justice system is run by a bunch of inept, ignorant, dipshit, in denial, dumb ass, wimpy, morons with iqs that hover around 70, trash like these people will be let out of prison to commit more murders. until this asshole country learns that "you can't rehabilitate so ya need to incarcerate" killers, this will keep happening. i can't stand living amongst morons. get me out of here.....all three of these animals should be in prison forever or be on death row.....period.
Jimbo Klern
12:40 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Stupid waste of life gang bangers. They're real tough...trying to make a quick buck instead of working for a living. Imagine...killing someone over a few buck and a cell phone?
Even though prison isn't enough of a sentence for them...let's see how Shaq-uille, Sean-Dell and Ra-Shon fare when they are someones b-i-t-c-h-e-s in prison
tired of animals
12:40 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Dean, is an FRICKIN IDIOT for trying to blame Mr. Berki for buying online. Then whoever walks in to a post office and gets shot by a worker who goes postal, then the deserve it?
That statement is just as stupid.
Blame the Animals who decided to fire the gun, and rob the victim.
THIS has NOTHING to do with race.
Animals come in all ethnicities and colors, not just one.
Russell Appollonia
12:40 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This was a premeditated and a thought out crime. All three of them new what could happen when a gun is involved. In my opinion the shooter should get the death penalty. No Question asked or anwsered. Move him to the head of the line. The others should serve atleast 85 yrs. in prison. No parole or probation. Also it should be under hard labor. Make them work . With all proceeds going to the family of the murdered boy. Any money sent them by family or friends should be collected and forwarded to the family. A person who is killed is not the only one hurt in the crime. For that matter any crime committed on another person affects everyone that person know or has any contact with. It is time to hold people responsible for what they do.
Poot
4:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It's pretty much a given in CA, use a gun, premeditation, lying in wait... needle in the arm. Someone will probably get a life sentence because he'll roll over on the others in a plea bargain. A lot depends on who bites first.
Jean
12:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Wearing rose-colored glasses with today's peoples of race oriented crimes is not wise. It is a sad way to have to live and trust has had to be put aside for a person's safety. Really sad.
genesis
12:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
dam people are so messed up and aweful! his girlfriend must be having a terrible time with all this , seeing her boyfriend get shot & killed infront of her eyes. so depressing -_______-
Nena
12:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yolis
I agree, it does not make sense. I hope these killers get the death penalty. They have value to human life and they should be shot to death as they did to this young man.
DOC
12:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
These lower than life beings need to be feed gas, needle injunction, or whatever it talkes to remove their being from this earth - But NO, because of their background, their lack of whatever, it will be used to lessing the time they will be senteced in jail, if or when found gullity. They choice what they did, therefore, let them receive what they inposed on others - Death to them all, and I would like to say God have Mercy on them, I can not, but I will say God judge them and make their punishment be HELL.
tc
12:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
We the tax payers are paying for these killers in prison that do not need to live.
vince villanueva
12:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
this is ad but also beware of scammers plus know the phone # their calling you from and figure out if legit on phone plus somewhere safe to meet the person where you know is the safest place to meet and watch what time your selling your items im a craigslist seller & thank the lord i never had to go through that No reason to ban the site It always warns you beware of scammers and ripoffs
BARRY CULVER
12:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
THIS IS SO SAD.I AM A AVADE CRAIGSLIST MEMBER I SELL AND TRADE ALL THE TIME AND NEVER THOUGHT ANYTHING ABOUT THAT,I THINK PEOPLE NEED TOO BE MORE AWARE OF WHERE TOO MEET AND SELL ANYTHING OFF CRAIGSLIST.MY HEART AND PRAYERS GO OUT TOO THE PARENTS AND FRIENDS,IM SO SORRY FOR THE BAD NEWS.I THINK THEY NEED TO SENTENCE THEM TO MORE THEN PRISON TIME FOR THESE ACTIONS THESE RUTHLESS THUGS DID TO THIS YOUNG MAN,THIS IS A DISGRACE AND I THINK THE PARENTS OF THESE KIDS NEEDED TO RAISED THERE KIDS BETTER,IT ALWAYS STARTS FROM THE HOME I THINK,SO SAD!
Chris
12:42 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The kids are blacks. I've seen a photo of them in court. The shooter should get the death penalty and the other two should get life, without the possibility of parole. If they are this violent this young, they can't be rehabbed. Their parents failed them. I SO wish in this country that parents were charged for the crimes of their under-aged kids. That's the only way that parents. espeically minority groups, will ever focus on what their kids are doing.
jamie
12:57 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
So true. Parenting is so vital , especially in the black community where over half the kids don't know who their father is. How about it Jessie and Sharpton. How about preaching to the black community rather than fueling racism. Fat chance, we know.
Really
1:40 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
@JAMIE...WITH THAT BEING SAID!.......I AGREE SOME AFRICAN AMERICAN KIDS NOT ONLY DO THEY NOT KNOW WHO THEIR FATHER'S ARE........... MOST IMPORTANTLY WHAT I FIND EXTREMLY DISTURBING IS THE FACT THAT THEY ALSO DON'T KNOW THE WHITE MAN WHO FATHERED SOME OF THEIR ANCESTOR'S VIA RAPE!!!....AND THERE IS NO NEED ON PREACHING THIS KNOWN FACT TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY WE ALREADY KNOW BECAUSE WE WAS THERE!!!!..........IS THERE A FAT CHANCE YOU MAY KNOW...*wink*
cindy
12:43 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You people are totally missing the point here. THIS IS NOT A RACE STORY. This is a tragic story about a young man who was killed by other young men. Leave the racial bs out of it.
Young people today, for whatever reason, have no regard for life. I think that parents need to change something about how they bring up their kids or we are going to see a lot worse in the coming years. And yes, this goes back to parenting. Say it doesn't, but the disregard for life comes from environmental issues.
mike hughes
1:25 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You are right (not) it is only a race story when a white person harms a Black. The reason that is such a big story is because it does not happen as often.
69% Bastard rate - 1 in 10 in Jail - 50 times more likely a Black harms a White person and the reverse.
Check census and the US Federal crime statistics.
This is not anyone's imagination it is a fact that we must face or become a victim.
amy dinor
12:45 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
What a horor, The Interenet is a blessing and yet a curse!An innocent life taken by three punks who just take space in this world and should not be aloud too.One good turn deserves another !the same goes for bad. These 3 garbages should get the maximum sentence! Nothing less.!!! There is no place in this world for Garbage and these 3 are certainly the worst of it.My prayers go to the familly of this young man.
allison
12:45 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
My sympathy goes out to the family. I would not go with Craigslist since they seem to draw bad types. For those who are going to take the chance, I would say, meet the person in a public place in broad daylight. After all, they are strangers. It doesn't matter that you chatted with them online or spoke over the phone. A stranger remains a stranger to me until we've had "face time". This is my advice for anything translating from the virtual world to the real world.
bcreader
12:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
RACE really has nothing to do with this and has no place in this discussion. Bottom line is an innocent boy was killed by 3 criminals. Parents can set the foundation by teaching their kids right from wrong, but in the end it is the individual who makes the choice. I have seen kids that grew up in good homes and great parents that taught them well,only to see their kids become drug users and robbers. my heart goes out to the victims family and friends who have to live with this sensless loss of life.
I am white, but I was taught to treat people the way you want to be treated. Not to judge people because of color but for who they are.
Shawn Mitchell
4:50 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Amen to that!!!
Dennis Watkins
12:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I hope that those three teens get what is comming to them while they are in prison. I dont think that all the tax payers want to foot the bill for those teens to be in prison for life so i say give them the death penalty and then get it over with within the first year that they are in prison. They should set up a fund for the victims familys. But this is only my opinion.....
Escalonz
12:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
What is really frustrating is that after an expensive trial these miscreants will be assured of three meals a day and a bed to sleep in every night as well as a secured roof over their heads and the chance of parole sometime in the future. Such is our liberal justice system and there is not a damn thing any one can do about it, Even if they are given the death penalty makes no difference as they will never be executed thanks to a liberal justice system that insures injustice rather than justice. Meanwhile these young thugs will continue to live comfortable lives while their victim rots in his grave. Such is California justice..................
Dana
12:53 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I agree with you 100% ... I feel the same way about Charles Manson.. He gets to eat.. watch tv and sleep in a bed comfortably.. its just so unfair!!!
Kim Pereira
1:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You are completely correct.
Poot
4:34 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Escalonz, you seem to have forgotten, along with those three meal is being anally raped a couple times a week, being force fed as much dick as you can take, worrying you may be murdered... just because... yes, indeed... it's pretty obvious you've never been in prison anywhere, let alone California. I suggest you look up a couple of our lovely prisos... try Pelican Bay for openers, and then make sure you check out Cochrane, where guards recently got busted for fighting prisoners like Michael Vick fights dogs. Please refrain from talking about things that you have no idea about.
Julez Julian
7:50 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
@Poot Your right
Donamorri
12:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Carry a gun , nothing scary about this , gangs are all over the place , be stupid u get killed.
Poot
4:31 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
good idea, so you can die in a shootout instead.
Julez Julian
7:54 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Or go to jail for breaking the law and be around the same group of people your talking about. I don't remember where I saw it bout a lot people with gun get kill by wait for it...THEIR OWN GUNS!
cool 1
12:47 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Rot in hell you scum of the earth!!! Why should we even waste our tax dollars caging this type of scum!
Heidi
1:27 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
political correctness. This Country is falling apart and we have nobody to blame but our politicians for allowing all handouts to losers.
Julez Julian
7:55 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
@Heidi I hope in your perfect world you never need help.
Dana
12:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Race is NOT the issue here folks.... someone is DEAD and will NEVER EVER be back to hug his mom, or get married or have children or live out his dreams... weather these guys were BLACK..WHITE .... ASIAN... or HISPANIC that is the LEAST thing you all should be concerned about...murderes come in all shapes, sizes and colors... so stop the racist BS.. pray for this young kids family to cope with the PAIN of their loss... Thank GOD.. these MURDERERS were arrested and they will now GET charged for what they did... that is the BOTTOM LINE.. they are going to pay for killing someone... so thank god... they were caught!!! RIP young man..... I am a 29 Black Female and my Boyfriend who is WHITE btw .. not that it matters was killed in Iraq in 2004.... he was a USMC. I know how it feels to lose someone you LOVE...... I just pray that your mothers heart can heal!!
kathy
7:26 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
I agree. I only responded to this article in the first place because the question was: How does his death affect you?" As a mother I was profoundly grieved for his mother. I was at first just as shocked at the vileness of all this racist garbarge. People are showing that the only way it affected them was to stir up the hatred in their hearts. That to me is another tragedy in our society. The crazy thing is many are offended when they are called racist. One suggested she shouldn't be called a racist for expressing her feelings...which were racist. If you notice, they (racist rantings) are completely oblivious to the grief of a family. This nation has a lot of social ills. Some of which are more prone to one race than the other. But racists don't recognize the ills that are predonminently their own. I became convinced some years ago during my studies that racism is actually a mental disorder. As with most mentally disturbed, they don't realize there is anything wrong with them. After reading the mindlessness I am even more convinced. Eventually we will all meet God and answer for our lives. The bible tells that He is spirit not man. Therefore, He does not have the the unique contruct of the human eye which translates color. He sees our hearts, our actions. The same hell that awaits the unrepent murderer awaits the unrepentant racist-and I doubt its segregated. Those who have a relationship w/God will one day experience life without the murderers or racists.
Fat Bastard
12:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yea, kind of right in your face that they are black and the victim white. I mean if this were three whites oh my God all hell would be breaking loose. But instead we will most likely pay for them to eat, drink and become football players. This country is so messed up. Hey Jessie Jackson, up yours!
Craig Muller
12:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
MMMMMmmmm Sorry for the sterotype..BUT, should'nt this be a HATE CRIME??? Oh I'm sorry..it has to be a white person killing an armed black..that's how it works?? NOT THREE blacks luring(premeditation) a WHITE couple, then MURDERING the kid!! Oh, again I'm sorry..ALLEGEDLY!! OH PLEASE with this hate crap!! Murder is MURDER!! white, black, green, doesn't matter!! TOO MUCH of senseless crimes from people that should NOT be able to pro create!! The End
Poot
4:30 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Why a hate crime? They didn't kill him because he was white. They killed him because he was trying to get their license number. They'd have killed anyone they just robbed. They're F*ing nuts.
Shawn Mitchell
4:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
YOUR A DUMB ASS!!!
SadSociety
12:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This site is weird, they will send you emails every time someone comments on an article you commented on until you go in and change the settings. Why the heck would I want 100s of emails about when other people comment? Hello??? Ironic that it occured during a Craigslist story.
Poot
4:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
well then, change the settings!
miguel flores
12:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
maybe they were all cracked up...and drunk..and were desperate. Give the shooter the death penalty and the others life. Craigslist is also like A PIRATE'S website...that says it all. My heart goes out to Berki's family and friends
Julez Julian
8:01 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Why do people always say that "My heart goes out to My heart goes out to"? I once heard a comedian say he always hated how people say if there's anything I can do for you his response yeah paint my house. LOL
Dana Leigh ;)
12:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
this is so sad. prayers for the girlfriend <3
jamie
12:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Black on white crime. Where are you Jessie? Rev Sharpton? You are a disgrace to your race.
Nena
12:58 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I agree with you jamie. If it was the other way around you can bet that Rev. Jackson and Sharpton will be marching and calling this a racist act.
Julez Julian
8:06 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Wait a minute how did Jackson and Sharpton come into this? I'm not sure they killed him cause he was white at least the article didn't say that so are you trying to do the same thing your implying about Sharpton or Jackson?
Morgan
12:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
They shouldn't be given the death sentence. They should spend the rest of their lifes behind bars, thinking about what they did and dwell in the guilt day after day while getting raped and toremented. Who do they think they are, killing a nice citizen? That normal in their hood, and they can kill all of their rival gang members for all anyone cares but to bring that crap to a normal citizen, they need life in prison, no other option. If the judge or prosecutor do anything else, they should be fired. There parental supervision taught them how to be like this. Its one thing to battle rival gangs that ask for it, its another to cowardly hide in the shawdows, luring someone in, and killing them. Ecspessially an 18 year boy, who had a life and stayed out of gangs. Hope they dwell in guilt and misery the rest of their lives behind bars, and that his loved ones know that the misery can be taken off their shoulders because the killers will take it upon theirs, in jail.
SadSociety
12:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Stop sending me emails!!!
LaJuan
12:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
My heart goes out to the family and friends of Garrett. This killing was so senseless. I am amazed at all the racist comments and hatred, no wonder this country is so screwed up. Since when are black people the only ones locked up or committing crimes. I am a black female and like most feel they need to be put under the jail for what they did. It's not about black or white, it's about a human life being snuffed out to soon. If it had been the other way around I would feel the same way. This country needs JESUS and alot of prayer
Linda
12:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
My heart goes out to Garrett Belki's family & friends.Another young man lost before he really got to live.
And to his girlfriend who saw her boyfriend killed,PLEASE get some councelling to help you deal with your loss.To many guns out there in the hands of morons and idiots who find it easier to rob & kill people than to get a REAL job! May Garrett rest peacefully in Heaven.And the fools that shot him should rot in hell
workingoncraigslist
12:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Everyone must be careful with all computer usage. You don't know who you are dealing with. Although I have had hundreds of work related (cleaning, landscaping) interactions on craigslist, and every case resulted in both(myself and the employer) pleased with the deal.
workingoncraigslist
12:53 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I should add that this I feel bad for this family. What happened to this seventeen year old youth was wrong.
Ben
12:54 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is another sad story in our country; teens killing without discretion. One of the contributing factors to youth killings is:
1. Men in this country have allowed themselves to plant the seed, leave the woman and the young boy grows up not know what "a real man is." As this continues across America, the adult males in this country continue to stay away from volunteering their time to teach and mentor young boys. If we as Black men continue to do nothing to mentor these young ones, we share in their demise and the continued incarceration of our youth. The demise of the American family rests squarely on the shoulders of American men.
We Black men will gather in great numbers to bar-b-que, watch sporting events, go to the club etc. Yet we refuse to spend time in the thousands of schools to mentor these young men.
In my opinion, we are failing our country and contributing to the livelihood and profitability of the Industrial Prison Complex.
Man up brothers...regardless of your culture or color.
Z. Kelly
12:59 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Thank you been for such an on point comment about the situation these kids and the black society is face with .
John
12:55 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Let's hope that Hospira is back up to speed on sodium thiopental production because these three mother fuckers are prime candidates for lethal injection!
Z. Kelly
1:02 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
At least they didn't bring guns to their high school and try to shoot everyone up (I wonder who fits that profile ? Hmmmmm)
Patti
12:56 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
What is scary is the fact that there are getting to be more and more stories like this. Seems we are raising our kids to be thieves, drug dealers, addicts and murderers. Doesn't say much for the way society is going now does it.
jose regalado
12:57 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I ask myself why is Craigslist so oppose to shipping. You dont hear about these crimes from Ebay, Im sure they have their own problems neither is perfect but there is no reason to have to meet up with a total stranger anywhere when you can just ship most things and if its a car, there are way to ship that too and just split the cost of doing it. The cost of shipping is well worth your life. I rather pay money to get it shipped than risk walking into a trap like this. I rather ebay anyday before going thru craigslist.
iceman
1:18 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
She lying...they went there to buy drugs and using Craigslist as a cover up story...open your eyes people.
kym
1:24 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Iceman . . . how do you know that? It's still a loss . . . and a completely senseless crime to take a life for drugs, or a cell phone so the bottom line is the same . . . but how do you know that?
maria
12:58 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It's not a black or white thing. People of every race kill and are killed everyday.
Gregory
1:00 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
That's the trouble with the majority of today's youth. Not only do they have little regard for human life, they don't feel they need to earn anything and think it's owed them. I hope they are given the death penalty, they aren't worth our tax money to feed and cell them.
kym
1:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I agree with you Gregory . . . too little regard for human life. I don't support capitol punishment . . . but I do agree that this is a true tragedy.
joey♥
1:00 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
they didnt even mention in the article what was for sale.
Poot
4:22 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yeah, as a matter of fact, they rather conspicuously avoided it, to the point of sounding kind of goofy...
Flagrante Delicto
1:00 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Uh, yeah right... had this been three WHITE teans killing a black kid, what do you think would be going on in the streets? Where is AL Sharpton with his indignation over this crime? Oh. and I'll bet these gang member's baby-mommas will all say they were such good boys...
kym
1:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I am Black and I am outraged. I don't see it in the article but the suspects are Black? I am very sorry to see anyone loose their life . . . ANYONE OF ANY COLOR . . . so don't make an enemy where you have the possibility for a friend. I understand anger . . . but I don't get professing one's ignorance . . . ignorance is what led to this crime in the first place . . . people in glass houses . . .
Z. Kelly
2:29 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Had they been white , the courts would have all kind of mental evalutions while their classmates say how good they were or they were high on meth . Thats a big problem , regarless of what a white person does , when its white , its alright . Al Sharpton stands up for people who otherwise wouldn't be heard . But but you're too caught up in seeing things one demensional , or should I say "Black or White" that all you understand is whats going on around you , what you see on tv an on the computer .
Morgan
1:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Im with LaJuan~ It's less about being black, and more about gang members and hood rats needing turn their lives around and give them to Jesus. This country does need Jesus, and if Jesus wasn't so forbidden everywhere, maybe things like this would not happen. All other religions are so protected, even the ones that have in their "book of worhship", "kill all white infedel". Maybe it's time Americans started giving the country back to Jesus/God. Maybe it's time for this liberal bs to stop, so our country can have a bcakbone again and be protected from evil like this. It's kind of our fault for taking Jesus out of this country and giving everyone so many rights and protection. Whats a nation if it doesn't stand for anything? Can a nation stand for everything and still serve a collective good? I think not. Put these fuckers behind bars. (And to everyone complaining about e-mails, uncheck the box before you submit your comment dumbasses)
gus
1:09 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
people like you give Jesus a bad name , when you proclaim to be a "christian " and then Cuse like that, when we as christians become a stumbling block , like the bible says we are with out taste or saltless salt. what we need is Forgivness from Jesus and then seek him and we will have forgiviness for others. and these things will stop.
Sheree Harhay
1:23 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I think this is an excellent response Jose. Craigslist is a peculiar site. When ads are placed online for employment, one has to respond to a PO Box or a secured email through Craigslist.. They don't support a shipping option and it is crazy to meet anyone you don't know under any circumstances. To assume that the person that you are dealing with is stable and a "safe" person to meet to exchange cash for objects is insanity. I don't think it's directly Craigslist's fault, but it took several deaths for them to remove their so-called "personals" where money is exchanged for sexual favors, even after the Craigslist killings. I wouldn't put myself out there on Craigslist and wouldn't respond to a listing on Craigslist. There are no safeguards in place except for the common sense one should and hopefully will use when meeting someone you absolutely know nothing about. Time to change the way Craigslist manages their sale of goods, communication methods and provide a way to ship at their online sit.
kym
1:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Wow . .. what a class act . . . and you wonder why the U.S.A. is facing so many challenges . . . Gus . . . good luck with this guy, but thanks for your comment . . . well said.
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:14 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
So Jesus would of told this white boy to shoot back at these ghetto thugs? Jesus is the president of the NRA?
Julez Julian
8:34 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
How many people died in the name of Jesus?
Carl Sulfaro
1:02 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
What we have here is shameful conduct with serious consequences required. Black on white or white on black or any other combination of perp on victim has to yield the same consequences. So three young men have just thrown their lives away and one young fellow has innocently lost his. As a society we need to punish the wrongdoing and, at the same time, look for ways for these youngsters to turn their lives around. A life in prison accomplishes absolutely nothing beneficial. No course of action will restore the life that was taken so punishment is due under any circumstance. However, there's time to rehabilitate these boys and make them productive if they are willing to adjust and learn from mistakes. If not, we can not have people running about recklessly doing these kinds of things. Everyone knows that prison is a very wasteful place to spend your "life".
kym
1:40 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Thanks . . . nicely put!
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:13 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
YOUR A RETARD! NUFF SAID
DizzyD427
1:03 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Stop with the 'what if this were three white guys' argument. Well it wasn't! You scream against stereotypes, yet look at the chosen names that deliberately create the stereotype... Rashon, Seandell, Shaquille. To claim there isn't a different value system in minorities is to put your head in the sand. To claim any one race, religion or gender is responsible for all the country's problems may be wrong... but percentages don't lie. And undoubtedly these three will get complete support from the black community because I'm sure they will somehow justify that Garret Berki had it coming.
kym
1:47 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
So riddle me this . . . what about "The Craigs List Killer", Jeffrey Domer, Timothy McVay, the Unibomber, Scott Petterson . . . better yet . .. do your dang research, start looking in the mirror, and be honest about your own insecurities and issues of hate & (clearly undeserved) privilege. ... . here is a list to get you started . . . do your homework and then get back to us about race & crime, I think what you'll find is that ALL HUMANS make bad decisions . . . and what we need to do is stop bringing race into it and find a way to fix what's wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_country#United_States_of_America
Julez Julian
8:41 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Really "percentages don't lie"...so would you be okay with make all white people submit DNA cause most serial killers are WHITE. You use statistics to go after a race but never will you look at other factors like how many guns are sold and to who.
Rick
1:03 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
And we're NOT supposed to profile? We're NOT supposed to be racist? Read this story again. Watch the evening news for a week or two. Can you honestly say you don't feel SOME kind of prejudice? Yes? Then you're a stronger person than I am. Or you're lying. And brace yourself..as the economy deteriorates, this is going to get far worse.
Poot
4:20 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
To make the leap you just did takes a very small mind and IQ. How's it feel to be like that?
Tax Dollars
1:04 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Crimes of this manatude for a couple bucks and a cell phone. REALLY, Prison, Rehab. I say Death Sentence and this stuff will stop. we rehab these, or support them in prison. I'm tired of wasting tax dollars on this stuff. Kill and be Killed, Rape and harm children, really do i have to post it, Death Sentence........
Al
1:04 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
These punks should taken out and shot. But with this justice system that's the last you will hear about the victim. All the focus will be on those 3 scumbags. And the jury will leave their brains outside the court room and take a year to decide their fate which should be the needle.
dennis
1:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Craig's list should be banned from operating on the internet. All it does is facilitate criminal behavior and prostitution.
Julez Julian
8:43 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Than by that logic the internet should be banned right?
under 30 crowd
1:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
We need public executions for these type of crimes.
jc
1:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I wish these worthless human waste Abernathy, Jones and Jordan and their parents where in one of the twin towers that went down on 9/11. This planet would have been a better place. Well if you guys Abernathy, Jones and Jordan or your family read this, PLEASE! I BEG YOU to walk in front of a speeding train. DO NOT turn your selves ina nd waste my tax dollars on getting free food and a place to sleep for free.
Donna
1:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I do believe the killers should be put to death very slowly. Our country is to lenient on criminals.
Other countrys in the world would shoot these killers immediately.
It is so sad. My neice and her family were robbed by a lowlife who answered an add for some things they had for sale. Craigslist is not safe for anyone to use. Stick to Ebay. You might lose some money on Ebay, but not your life.
This world is a sad, sad place and I know God will not let this continue much longer.
Poot
4:07 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I get the feeling you've probably never read the Constitution, have you?
Julez Julian
8:53 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Maybe you should look into moving to China were they even make a little profit from selling organs from capital murder inmates to rich foreigners.
elyce
1:06 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is absolutely disgusting. these animals should get nothing less then death! Start using the death penalty! there is an eye witness in this case! not to mention maybe if we start using the death penalty we can thin out the herd and make more room in these jails so we don't have to give early parole because of lack of space! And if need be I will volunteer my services to pull the switch on these animals! they are nothing less than ANIMALS! and dangerous Animals need to be put down! My heart goes out to the Mother of this young man that lost his life and to the girlfriend and all the family members.
Julez Julian
8:57 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Or maybe we should stop locking people up for small crimes and maybe we should stop talking about creating job and actually create some? Also stop shipping our jobs over sea I mean crime wall always be around but if there were more job I think we could reduce it.
Chiaki
1:06 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This week, James troutman 24, raped and murdered 9 year old Skyler Kauffman; returned home showered, and ate dinner with his fiancée.
A few years ago, a man posing as a boat buyer, killed the Newport beach, ca, couple who owned the boat, then threw their bodies overboard. In each case these guys were not black.
Thank God, we have a choice, we can choose to Love, or not. If, we choose not to Love, there is no limit as to the amount of evel we can do against each other.
God bless the Berki family and give them comfort for their tragic loss of the precious gift of life which God gave them.
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:10 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
god didn't love them enough thats why they died, you RETARD! good luck trying to teach god's love to other retards!
Julez Julian
8:59 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
@Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball you reall love too use the word "RETARD" why?
Sheree Harhay
1:07 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The kids that killed this young man were 17, one year younger than the man they swindled and ultimately killed. So many studies have been done on the rate of recidivism that I see no purpose in putting these boys in prison for life. What's the point. I don't own a gun and don't believe there is enough gun control in this country. It is way too easy for people to buy a gun and if the story reveals that these boys purchased the gun at a legal store, I'm sure you will find that this is the not the first run in with the law that these boys had and who knows if they've been involved in and got away with murder prior to this incident. I don't believe in an "eye for an eye" but I don't want to pay to house them in prison. It would be benevolent to all mankind, the parents of this college student, his girlfriend, and the neighboring community to see these three boys be put to death. What is the sense in having a trial and having these boys each get a state paid public defendant who will only present us with mitigating circumstances, turn the tables on the victim instead of the criminals they defend, and so on and so on. It used to be that there were safe havens to live in the this country. One isn't safe anywhere they go now. Enough is enough. Take this mother out of the added misery of having to hear about these kids in the media for weeks on end until the next gruesome attack takes center stage in the front pages.
sylvia sandoval
1:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
what is coming of people.. this is so wrong...... all this young man was wanting to buy something...
These who are waiting to be convicted are not only putting the young man they shot through hell, but their own families. My heart goes to the family of the young man who was shot.
Sally/Santa Monica, CA
Amber Feist
1:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
For family and friends...may your sorrows pass quickly and the memories remain forever. My heart goes out to you.
ciao
11:57 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Very nice post. My feelings as well.
Lynne Steer
1:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is not a race issue...this is 3 thugs who have no regard for life,,,they all should get life...that poor family losing their son is tragic...what is happening to our country that some of it's youth have no regard for life and moral fiber...Family is the backbone of this Counry,,,sadly enough not enough families exist anymore that teach their children right and wrong and the golden rule...I weep for my beloved country that I so much...I have a husband and a 14 yr old daughter who we teach right and wrong..and we're not rich with money,,,but rich with what is important in life...love and family. God rest that poor boy's soul.
Lora
1:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Sorry to disagree with you, but this is a race issue! The three thugs were black and armed, the victims were white! If one white person so much as made a "racial Slur" it's considered a racially motivated hate crime! So now I say this: When one of your black folks, kills or injures a white person who isn't even armed, we are going to start screaming that it's racially motivated! What's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander!
Recce1
1:16 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Lynne, tell me again this wasn't a racially or gang motivated related murder. Now if three whites had murdered a black youth race would be touted as a primary cause and the whites would be portrayed as part of the Tea Party.
But you're right about you and your husband teaching real wealth to your daughter, a wealth of spirit.
kym
1:58 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I agree Lynne . . this is NOT a race issue. I am Black and I don't go around killing ANYBODY! That's just an excuse people use when they are too lazy or too privileged or to out of touch to want to take the time to really fix what's broken. I prosecute people who behave this way . . . I don't make excuses . . . but I also believe in justice not jungle justice . . . and I am Liberal and I voted for Obama .. . so there! We incarcerate more people than China - not proportionately . . . numerically . .. that right there tells us that we are going about crime cessation ALL WRONG . . . shoot, China is COMMUNIST . . . we must do better, work TOGETHER across race, class & gender . . . or fail.
iceman
1:09 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I think it's a lie (the graiglists thing). I think they went there to buy drugs and got robbed...Still it's a tragedy.
Recce1
1:22 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You could be correct, but what motive would the police or press have to involve Craigslist if they played no role in this tragic incident? In addition, would it have to be a lie? Couldn't the press have gotten the facts wrong? Or do you believe everyone lies? Please, don't be so skeptical. But like you said, it could be a lie. So further investigations should be conducted. Not that it makes it any less tragic. As someone said, trust but verify.
Lora
1:10 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It makes me so mad when the mothers of these misfits show up on the local news saying "It wasn't my kid's fault! He's a good boy. The other two did it, and mine was just in the wrong place at the wrong time!" Please people, your kid is responsible; just as responsible as the other two. You son knew what kid of boys he was hanging around with, and more than likely, you're just too far out of touch with reality, to know what your kid is doing. All three of these monsters need to rot their gang banging behinds in jail, until it's time for the needle. Society has no place for people who are too lazy to work for what they want, and fell the best way to get it is to take it from behind the barrel of a gun. Don't deal with Craigs list people. It's a risk that isn't worth taking!
Morgan
1:14 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The death penalty is a present for these guys. Letting them dwell in prison for the rest of their life, to live with the guilt and live in the depths of sheer misery... is a far worse punishment then death. At least maybe in prison, they have to time to find Jesus and fill their souls with light, so they have a chance to go to heaven. It's not our job to play God, it's our job to make sure their life is taken away, in a way that they will dwell in misery for 80 years. If they have to live with the guilt, rather then just die, the family will know that they need not bear the wieght on their shoulders. But I guess; an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
Kim Pereira
1:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
To all who are listening, from first hand experience these boys that do know right from wrong, will only end up receiving about 5 yrs. in prision. Not one person in California gets the death penalty. I had a best friend, he was a lawyer, he was killed in cold blood by his exgirlfriend. Lawyers fought hard for him in court. She got 10 years, 5 with good behavior, for a premeditated, revengeful, murder. In the year and a half of following this case, I educated myself on other murder cases in the state of California. I learned that because of the overcrowding of our jails, and the out cry of profiling of who ends up in our jails, and the rights of criminals regarding letheal injections, the CA judges are trying to rectify things by only giving very light sentences to ALL CRIMES. The jury wanted the exgirlfriend to get 30 years, and at first the prosecution team was pretty happy with that determination. The judge overruled the jury's decision and gave her 10 yrs. 5 with good behavior.
If you look around at other decisions that are very extreme crimes no matter what the jury gives as a verdict and really try to punish and set an example to criminals, now, all judges overrule and give 10 yrs. to 5 yrs. because they can. Follow this Craigslist trail. They will also only get 10 yrs. at the most. Sorry but our judicial system is dysfunctional also.
Poot
4:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You aren't from California, are you. They're quite likely to spend the next 30 years on death row, then all be executed about the same time. That simple comment of "no one gets the death penalty" is pretty damn stupid and warns it that just about anything you say will be equally stupid. If you don't know what you're talking about, please go read a book instead of subjecting the rest of us to your BS.
Fv
1:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It's not racism, it's animals like this that kill their own people , ( black on black crime) there are as many good blacks as there are white in this country, it's just that ghetto bred animals like them just don't care about human life, black , white , yellow or brown.
BASE
1:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Race, we are need in of God. There are so many factors that play into black crime ( lack of jobs, ignorance, environment, education, etc etc) Whites commit different type of crimes that affect communities, cities, states countries and nations. (Manoff, enron, reservations, minorities making the 5000 less doing the same job as whites. They are not smarter just have slaved and used guns and weapons to do it. White you sit there so proud and arrogant when you don't evan know your own history you are the robbers and murderers you created this mess with the inequality of life YOU DID IT READ HISTORY !!!!! They indirectly kill. ( indians, Blacks, hispanics. Creating the wellfare system, creating, low income housing, segregation. The mind, we are creatures of habit and influence and they no it. The things whites have done to other races to control there thoughts there way of life. So they can stay ahead. They have killed, stole, detroyed for centuries for power and control. these kids are a product of the societies that have been created. I am positive if minorities have the same networks, social status, access to money and connections as whites been given this would be different. You are a product of your environment and circumstances. This IS WRONG BY GOD . But race has nothing to DO with it. There are many well educated blacks across the world that would never do this. KEEP WHITES FEELING THEY ARE BETTER WHICH IS NOT TRUE WE ARE ALL EQUAL BY GOD.
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:07 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
god obviously didn't love this white boy enough thats why he died, you retard!
the truth
1:16 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
These 17-years olds have not only ruined many people's lives but also their own. For ages men (and women) have murdered over greed. Just plain greed. It's sad that they couldn't have learned to contribute to society in a positive way... but in the end, people make their own choices. White or black, tall or short, we can't help what category we fall into when we're born... but we are responsible for what kind of a legacy we leave behind. Lots of lives wasted over greed. It's very sad, but true.
jeff
1:16 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
50 years that will turn into 5 or 10 years because of asshole parole boards is the sentence??? our piece of shit, lame, inept, wimpy, disgusting, ignorant, hypocritical, and completely devoid of any common sense justice system needs such help. this country is embarrASSing to live in as long as we have these dumb ass judges, juries, and da's in it. these pigs should be ashamed of themselves for even entertaining the thought that killers can be rehabilitated so they can be let out again. get rid of these liberal, bleeding heart morons and raise the iq of our justice system about 50 points. people are so unbelievably ignorant, i can't stand living amongst idiots. it needs to stop like yesterday.
J A lopez
1:17 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It goes to show,if blacks were held accountable to the crimes they commit, just like the illegals and be deported o I forgot where are we going to send. At least the illegals have country to go back to. LOL
Eli Padilla
11:19 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Que ignorante eres, cabron no mas criminales que tu jente y tu desendencia cabron, you are living int the country of those blacks and white people that work hard to make it. And what you and your people do jump the borders to have something to eat you shoud not be talking pedazo de puto. You guys are like a plaga chico you hate white people hate blacks want to walk and talk like black's pedazo de gusano ignorante como les dice Paquita la del barrio.
ray brown
1:17 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
When azzholes makes this out to be a race thing, it causes all the saddest and compassion I felt for these victims to disappear. Some of you racist nitwits need to know what it takes for a crime to be consider a hate crime, otherwise, you just sound like a racist fools.
elyce
1:17 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
QUIT PLAYING THE RACE CARD! this has nothing to do with color, the FACT is these animals that murdered this innocent victim were black! I would feel the same if the Animals were white and did this! funny how the race card always has to come into play when there is a murder and the murderer is black! Color has NOTHING to do with it, THESE ANIMALS DESERVE NOTHING LESS THEN DEATH!
laura
1:17 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Thugs. I pray, yes PRAY, that they get the death penalty. I've read the comments posted and I totally agree that this is about race. Whoever says that Blacks and Mexicans aren't the majority of the prisoners is wrong. They are the majority of the criminals in this country. An innocent child is dead. Someone's son. For no reason. The problem is that we have bent over backwards trying to appease them, so now they all think that they don't need to work for a living. They collect welfare, get food stamps, medicare, low income housing. They think that they don't have to study hard to get into good schools and get good grades because they can get into Harvard just because they're black. And they go for free. My kids had to all pay for school. They get the job or the promotion before a white person because if they don't, they cry racism. We have rewarded them for doing nothing. They rob because they think they're entitled to it. And as far as human life is concerned, they don't value it at all. How could they? They're born to a single mother who has 6 other kids by 6 other men and the fathers are no where in site. What a bunch! And to think that we sacrificed over 300,000 lives in the Civil War to try to free them. What a sin.
ny
2:47 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
wow ur really intelligent. '' ask ur self this, what do i do to help this world'' im pretty sure nothing, ur just as messed up as they are.
Vin Falcone
1:18 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
When are they going to shut down this website. It seems every other week there is someone being robbed/killed/scammed from an alleged seller/buyer. I think its time someone took some action but it seems that the powers that be are too busy regulating our salt and sugar intake and how many 4Lokos we can drink instead of taking action against things that pose an actual threat to people.
Jean Deux
1:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
why don't we just stop letting criminals out of prison?
sean
1:18 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
more black on white crime (as usual) but the liberal media will never tell you the 3 million stories like this with that slant...but the 10 stories a year the other way,and cnbs has it their lead story for 3 weeks....
also notice all the crminals in commercials are never black? although 66% of all violent crimes are committed by black males 15-40....wake up sheeple
Jean Deux
1:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
blak folk are wonderful on tv and in the movies, in real life, not so much
Moishe
1:20 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
They should get the death penalty . I know this sounds crazy but there should be thre Hitlers to clean up >
real white
1:20 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It happens everyday in every major and minor city across America. Black on white crime. Black racism is as rampant as ever. Be aware and be vigilant. Its going to be a long long time if ever before this problem is solved.
Patty
1:20 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I am broken hearted for the family of this young man. He had a full life ahead. His GF must also not be forgotten. She will need lots of loving care to recover from this horrible act. God Bless The Families.
As for the three "killiers" - They Killed - they Die . Yes, "They", because "They" were together in the deed and "They" were arrested together -as "They" ran from the scene. Horrible. I have a big heart but not here.
Grandma Patty
Joseph B Hanon
1:22 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The three alleged perpetrators ought not be released on bond and ought to be castrated before trial so as not to replicate any of their kind!!!
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:04 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yes! Bastards like these three should not be allowed to be baby daddies, especially baby daddies in prison who can't support their bastard children and then the rest of society has to pay for the welfare of bastards!
gus
1:22 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
we all need to look at our own lives and try and see through Jesus Christ eyes , if he condemed each one of us that has ever thought or has murdered someone we would all be Hell bound! But In fact everyone that is still alive Could have enternal life , that life begins right then when you ask Jesus Christ into your heart. 2 years ago on Christmas eve morning I awoke me and my wife she went to Kroger , I was reading and praying and then I asked God if he ever cried when people died and went to hell ? and as I sat there I felt tremendous sorrow I began we cry , actaully sobing, I beleive it was right then That My God said yes he cries and we the people on this earth that he created dies and goes to hell, he does cry, why you ask ? Because as in Genesis 1 :26 Then God said "Let us make man in Our image according to Our Likeness, enjoy gus
Heidi
1:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
yea let's talk about the Religion card, HA!! How about those Catholics...come here little boy, want some candy?
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:03 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Your a god damn retard! it is very insulting to crime victims to hear this religious crap your spewing!
Felton
1:22 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I wish that young man would have taken a minute and thought when he saw the 3 black youths. What could they have of any value that was likely not stolen?
You guys are right, all races do it, its just the blacks and Spanish make up a smaller % of the population but account for around 85 % of the violent crime in the US. Most done by individuals under 21. So spare me on the racist thing.
And Jimmy, dont call people stupid and then misspell it.
Poot
4:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
How'd the Spanish get mixed up in this now?
Dionysus
1:22 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
There's a lot of criticism in the comments about the murder suspects being black. The problem is that several generalities keep staring us in the face. First, there is something seriously wrong with Craigslist. Over and over we hear about serious crimes connected with the website. Second, where there's smoke, there's fire, and black Americans of sub-Saharan descent seem to blow a lot of smoke. Most of it comes in the form of violence and racism. When you look at OJ Simpson and Al Sharpton, you see two popular characters who are representative of the problem. And the problem is that their violence and bigotry is repeatedly denied by the black community. Which is to say that many blacks are too insecure or ignorant to handle any form of criticism. It is time for blacks to own up for their share of the problems.
Z. Kelly
1:23 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
One last thing , had 3 white kids did this , they would run all kind of test , observe them then come up with some sort of conclusion as to why they would do such a thing (probably blaming it on Marilyn Manson) . But when it comes down to black kids doing the same things , they're monsters and should be put to death . Its all the racist people who should be put to death , hung or maybe even thrown off a cliff so that we who dont see in balck and white can co exist without all the ignorant bullshit . And this is coming from a black man who has probably dated more white women than every white male on here (though Im now married to a black woman)
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
All those white women are on welfare now because of you! Are you proud of your irresponsible behavior?
kym
1:23 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
We've learned that people's greed & selfishness ruin EVERYTHING for everyone else - a perfectly useful way to communicate (i.e. Craig's List) has been misused and tainted, an innocent life lost, another traumatized, and everyone who hears this story is less trustful and more saddened . . . and for what? A few dollars and a cell phone? Idiotic! Justice should be firm and harsh for these 3, but productive too . . . our hearts go out to the friends and family who have lost their loved one . . . but we as a society need to do better and teach VALUES . . .(not "morals") I'd like to know what the 3 in jail have learned.
Sylvie7
1:23 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Ben, your need to react to the biased comments made by a lot of people here, hit a sympathetic place in my own mind and experience. I know the feeling because I also belong to an ethnic minority. Don't forget that most of the writers are not rocket scientists. Many of them can not spell correctly. You don't need to defend anyone against the remarks stupid people make. They are just stupid; subtle, complicated analyses of anything are beyond them. They might not know enough European and American history to understand how many people have died as a result of simple minded prejudice against non whites or non Christians. Most readers white or black know that these creeps are black, by their names. Your name wasn't there. You are not responsible for their anti social behavior. Their spoiled brat, unrestrained behavior, however, is not justified by ugly history . If someone who writes a comment doesn't understand what you are saying, just make your counter comment and move on. You are expecting too much. You can only educate open minded or very young people. Times have changed somewhat, since as a school girl, I saw a photo of Emmet Till posted on a tree in my neighborhood. It was horrible. I have never forgotten it, or that in that era it wasn't unusual. All the best to you.
Gregg
1:23 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Given the enormous expense and involvement that goes in to murder trials, and here there would be three of them, I think they should make a change to the law as it applies to pleading. I think they should add 10 years to the sentence of anyone who pleads "innocent" and is found to be guilty. This way, there would be a big incentive for truly guilty people to plead guilty and in this case, for those who didn't fire the weapon, and who may get lesser charges of robbery, etc, to finger the one who did, and save time and money.
dan zamfir
1:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
the bastards have to be put on electric chair
gus
1:27 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
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Justice for US
1:27 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is sickening and yet it goes on every day because we have a "very broken" judicial system in which the three scumbags who did this will be presented in suits to a jury, addressed as Sir, and provided the upmost courtesies in a courtroom; all the while they are laughing inside because they know how to game the broken judicial system. We have become so "politically correct" in our mannerisms today. No one has the courage to address outlandish acts like this straight on any more.
You use a gun to kill someone in the act of a crime, you dont go to jail or sit on death row for 28 years, you go to the wall and justice is carried out by a firing squad. No prolonged burden to the tax payers, no prolonged farce of a trial where attorneys try to out-smart and out-maneuver each other to hide the truth, justice is done for the families, and moreover, we demonstrate an intollerance for this kind of unspeakable and senseless behavior. We need to give up the notion that everyone wants to be an "angel" in life; some people are down right mean, evil and reckless and they need to be addressed as such. Come on America, stand up and take our society back from the bullies and gang-bangers who seek to destroy our way of life and all the while hide behind our farce of a legal system. Gang-banger pukes only believe in the law when they are trying to escape responsibility for their actions and the only remorse they have is in having been caught. This sort of occurrence just sickens me.
Heidi
1:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
In what neighbor"hoods" do you see bars on windows?
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
1:57 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The kind that certain people rap about in their "music". LOL
Bob
1:29 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
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kenhp1
1:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Craigslist is a great place to trade and barter. If you can PLEASE meet them at public place. And not the hood. However, it is full of scams and setups. These people will need the death penalty.
This is what you get when parents don't teach their children right from wrong, allow them to join gangs, let them carry guns, let them stay out all night to destroy others property or beat homeless people, or break into houses.
Certain people in our society believe it is cool to have children at 16-17 and refer to the father as "baby daddy". This is ruining our Country and it gets worse each and everyday.
In my opinion the parents of the 17 year old needs to be n jail as well. At the very least charged with neglect. Until parents are held responsible for their complicity of neglect, aiding the delinquency of minors this will never get better.
Steve
1:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
If your a legitimate seller and or buyer why not meet at your local police station parking lot or lobby? Seriously. I have a $1500 gold watch I am thinking of selling and if I sold on Craigslist or Ebay and to someone local my add would say cash only and lets meet at a local police station. If they are legit then they will meet you and the transaction will be perfectly fine. If they are criminals or wanna be criminals then they will never show up. Simple as that. Too bad this happened but they should have never followed these jerks. Just get a description and license plate if you can and leave it to the cops.
LAURIE
1:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
THEY SHOULD PUT A BULLET IN ALL 3S HEADS FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE IM SO SICK OF THESE LITTLE WANNA BES THE PARENTS SHOULD BE SHOT TO FOR NOT RAISING THESE BRATS BETTER INCLUDING HRS WITH ALL THE CRAP OF YOU CANT PUNISH YOUR KIDS OR YOU WILL GO TO JAIL WELL GOVERMENT GIVE THEM MORE LEE WAY TO KILL MORE INOCCENT PEOPLE THIS COUNTRY MAKES ME SICK !!!!
Shawn Mitchell
4:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
WELL MOVE YOUR DUMB ASS TO ANTHOER COUNTRY.YALL ARE MAKING ME SICK WITH ALL THESE BUMB ASS COMMENTS.NOT WHAT THIS WAS SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT.HOW DID GARRETT TOUCH YOUR LIF!!!!
Jean Deux
1:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
the police aren't the only ones who need to profile, all white people better start profiling
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
1:55 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yes. All white people need to smart up! Black people are not the adorable buddies that TV and Hollywood make them out to be.
scottfrom Bmore
1:35 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
ATTENTION BLACK PEOPLE- please stop saying there are no black serial killers its simply false. There have been over 50 confirmed black serial killers which incidently is higher per capita then white. Look it up if you dont beleive me. Would you like me to give a few recent examples- Terry blair Kansas city the Grim sleeper California the DC sniper to name a few. That doesnt even include all the unsolved murders every year in every city and varoius gang members that have multiple kills. FYI Blacks make up only 12% of the US population. Also you always bring up school shootings. Well this is another fact that is simply wrong, just because every couple of years a white kid kills 12 people in school you think that this is a white issue wrong, in every city every year there are hundreds of school shootings mostly black. But because there are not usually more then one victom it doesnt get the same press.
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
1:54 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
What you say is true, Scotty! Black serial killers do exist, they just don't get the amount of media coverage as white ones that's all. Search criminal databases and you will see them.
gus
1:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
prison life is all about trying to out run the daily rapes, the daily beatings, it may look al cool on the tV but real life in the joint, all hard time real hard, how would you feel if your child was there and the is a gang that rapes them everyday, or when you just have 6 days left and on of the other prisoners cuts your throat, just because you or your brother is getting out !
Al
1:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Bible says and eye for an eye. Fifty years each in jail cost around $5,000,000 in today's dollars. I can think of a much better way to handle it.
diane c haye
1:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I had a distant relative killed by a group of young violent men while with he was with his girlfriend downtown, at night. My male relative was in his early twenties. He and his girlfriend were leaving a concert and while walking to reach their vehicle, were approached by a gang. He died protecting his girlfriend from sexual assault by this group of young men. The group of young men beat him to death; I believe there was a lot of head trauma involved with his fatal injury. Like the story above, his girlfriend witnessed him being killed. I never heard that the murderers were found. I was so saddened by my distant relative's account and I am saddened by this account. Innocent young lives being taken by those who are driven by greed, lust, and violence with no thought to human life and others' suffering.
Malcom
1:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
they might as well keep killing whites. its not like whites will stand up and fight back, march or protest.
so if you don't mind Whites being lynched then just shut up and accept White America's fate.
Bill
1:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Life in prision??? Thats it??? Whats wrong with the losers in this world?? How many of these POS murders and rapist do we have to house and support?? Man there really is no justice. Hope these fools get shanked in prision. I dont believe in rehabilitation. And I dont have any compasion at all for any these kind of people.
normajean
1:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Black, white, green, yellow, purple, does not matter, when you are bad, you are bad. All people bashing the black kids that committed the crime, should not forget that the Craigslist killer was a white boy. Med grad! Sorry, but I am not black, just saying! The kids made a mistake to go to a bad neighborhood, and I feel terrible for his family, and I hope that the murderers get what they deserve, if not, a little more. God bless!
scottfrom Bmore
1:57 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Normajean this is a common occurense. My best friends fiancee was followed home by for black guys punched in here face thrown in the back of a van. They sexually assaulted her all night long. they found her body four days later with a bullet in her head. All for $300 dollars her name was Evette. She was a pharmicists as is my best friend. They where found guilty all serving life. Baltimore city early 2000s.
Eli Padilla
1:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
My God! when it is that Americans going to stop to see the color of the sking of people we are just human when a white person die turn black . Here Iam in this country and I see all kind of face and color and shapes and culture but white and black's they can not get over or their sking color.
Same go with the bigest group of Latino in America they hate blacks, they hate white but the mother @@@@ come to this country ilegayl and demand rights. Get over your stupid colors, if somebody break the law you have to pay get over your stupid skin color get over.
John Gavala
1:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
We hasd this type of robery and murder here is Michigan..A young man was killed over a cell phone buy, the same type of young punk did the same, shot himt in front of his own home!
People need to be cautious about buying on Craigslist ! Alot ot robbery's and ruse people doinmg these crimes, beware, protect your self..
Id never meet any one away from my home !
Marie
1:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is so sad and I pray that his family finds comfort. As far as the idiots being caught I am glad they were caught... Justice served. Let's not make it a racial issue. Idiots are of all ethnicities. I do wish Garrett would have stayed a distance away, gathered as much info as to their identity then contacted the police and let them handle it. My heart goes out to his family, girlfriend and anyone who personally knew him. May he RIP.
Marty D.
1:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
One night at 3:30AM I went to meet a guy who was selling a laptop for $100. He said he needed the extra money to bail his brother out of jail. I went to an ATM and got out $100. I met the guy at the said place. I then dropped him off at a house in a cul-de-sac. I was worried. But nothing happened to me! Of course I hauled ass from the place. The next day a former police officer told me that I had been in a very dangerous part of town. He said that it's even dangerous during the day! I MADE IT OUT ALIVE!
Bill Barton
1:43 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Another valid reason for our 2nd Amendment rights to bear arms! I would never go to such a meeting without both backup and my weapon fully available to retaliate against the thugs and hoodlums that prey on innocent people. Obviously police anywhere can't be everywhere to protect you, your primary protection is your own, and my equalizer speaks punk and all languages without any misunderstandings or interpretations! It is the Old West out there no matter your location! Also better sense could have been used as to where you meet strangers for any activities, like in a lighted public place with other people around. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6!!!
Poot
3:56 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yeah, we get it, you're a real tough guy, so paranoid that you take a gun when you go to meet a guy to buy $20 worth of CDs. We're all really scared.
Joe Smith
1:44 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I dislike Craigslist just because of the crime it attracts. I have sold things on it, and I had two bad deals with it. People coming to my driveway and trying to get me down on my price, getting violent, and cursing me out. I'm lucky I didn't get shot! Another thing, beware of rehoming, selling, or giving your animals away for free to good home on Craigslist. A lot of animals end up as medical experiments or bait for dog fighting rings. Personally, I agree with some of these comments on here, nothing good comes out of Craigslist!
Kimmie0
1:45 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
For everyone making comments against Craig's List... please be realistic. This kind of tragedy has nothing to do with Craig's List. People who want to take advantage of others have done so through every method available since the beginning of time. Regular newspaper classifieds are no different... or any kind of advertising for that matter. This is not an issue of any particular race... only humans in general. Some of us are predatory... some of us are gullible... some of us are nice and some of us are not.... and most of us carry all those traits depending on the circumstances. We are a helluva species.
archie l
1:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
WHERE IS AL SHARPTON NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don F
1:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is just one of many senseless murders. Until we force our justice system to make the law more to protect the victim than to protecting the rights of the criminal, we will continue to have consequences like this happen. It will continue to increase over time. Look at the way things are right now: 1) they have to get caught, 2) if they aren't read their so-called (??) rights properly, they'll be set free, 3) if they plead guilty, they receive a reduced sentence, 4) if they plead "not guilty", we MUST PROVE, WITHOUT A DOUBT, that they ares guilty, 5) even if we DO prove them guilty, they may receive a life sentence and be up for parole and set "FREE" within 7-10 years. IS THIS JUSTICE? I think not. It is a pathetic joke. Meanwhile, the deceased victim continues to lay in his/her grave. A husband or wife no longer has their spouse, children grow up without their mother or father, a parent no longer has their child, and society loses another good citizen. IS THIS JUSTICE? There is no other place in the entire world that treats criminals like us. Most all of these people cannot be rehabilitated. Our tax dollars are keeping these criminals alive. Jail life is a better life than what they had on the outside. WE BETTER DAMN WELL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! That boy's life is gone forever. They must die for this crime.
Don F
1:57 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
One last thing, if any one of these murderers are set free into society, you can be sure they are going to commit this same crime over again. These rodents need to be exterminated.
Shawn Mitchell
4:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Damn dummie,ypu are going to do way more then 7-10 off a life sentence.
Mike
1:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The poor family of this young man. Makes me want to cry. I live here and heard about it yesterday. East San Diego, and South East San Diego are full of gangland activity. La Jolla is upper middle class. Poor guy probably didn't know this. Rest peacefully
ralph
1:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
So sorry for the family. I bet they were hibitural offenders, in and out of the court system most of their lives. Thats how it works, the court system isn't in it for justice its all about money they can make.
garypeter
1:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
These stories are sadly, for me, becoming less and less reactionary as I read at least 1, and sometimes as many as 5 or 6, daily. Youths killed for this or that. Murder of elderly for their $560.00 SSI check. Women raped and then dismembered, with their genitalia scooped out. No one is safe. Yet, for some reason, and I don't know why as I am surely not the only one reading these articles, states want to make it easier to purchase firearms and are less punitive against those who have purchased firearms illegally, with the help of lobbyists and the NRA. Have they, like me, become so hardened and callous reading stories about gun related and violent deaths, that, as they say, we would all be better if we were all armed? I though, don't want to walk around with a gun in my knapsack. It'll never happen, and I have been pistil whipped and also witnessed, on the same occasion, the murder of my partner. A gun would have not helped me at all in that situation, except probably get me killed, as well. Now TX wants to allow its colleges and universities to permit its students to arm themselves. I see tragedy coming forth from this blunder. Why do we in the US have so many homicides? What has happened? Where is Europe, nations that, yes, have a lower population, but per capita, have less than 10% of the murders we have? Why? Why did this kid trust so much to meet someone he did not know, and then follow them? How trusting, yet naive. We need to take stock, rethink, and start again! Sad!
Jean Deux
1:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
that's a surprise, usually they would have gang raped the girl too
judy
1:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
We need NOTHING badly enough to use Craigslist people! Leave it alone and let it die because predators are using it to rob and kill people. The authorities should close it down but sense they won't or can't, then close it down by rejecting it. If it dies, the life you've saved may not be yours but some other poor sucker.
joy
1:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Its not Craigslist...Its punks!!! May they get the death pen. I do recomend to meet at a store w/ security cameras,, and or a guard,,Walmart
Joe Papierz Jr
1:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I feel sorry for the young man, his girlfriend, and the young man's family. I pray he will rest in peace. Craigs' List will take a hard hit because of this negative publicity, but the same thing can happen if you respond to a printed ad in your local news paper. It's not the media's fault. Someone mentioned meeting the seller inside a crowded fast food restaurant that is equiped with security cameras and is loaded with potential witness's. Another plan is to carry only enough cash to close the deal. If you are robbed, don't give chase. No amount of money is worth losing your live over. There is no completely foolproof way to transact your business. It's a sad fact of our society today; crooks stay awake nights figuring out any weakness in potential targets and situations.
Barbara
1:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
All of us must keep this in mind because it could happen to us. We put an add in and never in a million years would we think something like this could happen to us. How scary!! God bless the family who lost their loved one.
Disregard for Human life.
1:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The sad thing is, these individuals who've allegedly committed the crime, will go to prison. They will get to eat three meals a day. Their family members will send them money, along with their girlfriends and boyfriends. They will get the money and buy better food to eat than you and I get. They will get to enjoy basketball, baseball, video games, lift weights, and watch satellite television. They will be educated. They will get to see their family members on weekends. All of the wonderful benefits of their education, their heated rooms, their medical benefits, are going to be all paid by YOU the taxpayer. So everyone, when you see a crime committed, it's not only the victim that gets hurt and their families, but it is also society. Society will have to foot the bill for their crimes.
Think about it, and look it up in your own states. See how much it costs your state to care for convicted felons.
Martn L.
1:54 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
3 geniuses. hope they go to prison for a long time.
DEBBIE PAYTON
1:54 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
HELLO! Has anyone seen the movie Harry Brown?????????????
Jazzy
1:55 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
These three killers are just human debris. Just sweep them up and throw them away. They're taking up valuble space, and who needs them? Commit a murder and you're over-simple. I won't miss them.
Harold Bledsoe
1:56 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yoy can tell by the names they are Black asses.The only oae that woiud do this would be BLACK SOB
Jay
2:06 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
There are images of them online.....all black. You do realize that if a bunch of whites killed an African American, there would be screams of racism. Whites just stay quiet while being wiped out. How sad..
trisha
2:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
it would be considered a hate crime if it was the other way around! I heard some girl the other day saying something about "ya they gots a 'white' scholarship.... that shee-it is racist!"..... um.... but its NOT racist to have an african american scholarship? or a latino one? or asian? ONLY white?
Steve Bailey
1:56 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The cost to keep these losers in prison for 60 years, would be about $3,000,000 EACH. Let's see, a little longer than that and you and I spend $10 Million dollars total.
3 Cartridges about $7 bucks. Makes sense to me!
beth ritter
2:00 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
EXACTLY!!!! How about bringing back "an eye for an eye"???? Yeah, let's have the taxpayers support these scum for the rest of their lives....
Beth
1:56 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is what happens when sick, dimented people have no conscience!! To go around and look for an innocent person to kill is wrong!! Get a life...oh, shall I say....you will get life...you deserve it!!
Ajax Johnson
1:58 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
If you are buying and have to meet, do it in front of a police station.
The "brothas" have been busy lately. They did the same thing to a couple of young Brits in Sarasota a few weeks ago.
http://www.drudge.com/news/143395/brits-killed-florida-gang-initiation
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13110039
say_what
1:58 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Craigslist buyers beware of Sellers that don't have a good reputation, at least try to do a history of them before meeting up with them
S Smith
1:59 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
the fact that 17 year olds think they can victimized people with No consequence just makes me ill.
I have an 18 year old son, he sells and buys on Craigslist. He supports his sports and hobbies in a positive way with the activity, My heart goes out to Garrets family and his girlfriend, Garrett reminds me of my son. just starting out in life and trying to do the right thing, budget wisely and then 3 IDIOTS take his life! OMG! Life sentences for all of them!
TONINO63
2:00 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Why is there even a trial. Put them against the wall and shoot them!!! Why waste more taxpayer money on these scumbags! Then we'll put them in an air conditioned jail, feed them 3 dang meals a day, give them HBO, medical dental and COLLEGE!!! I bust my but to put my kids through college and all they need to do is kill someone. I have to pay my meds, dental etc and my cable bill. But kill somebody and you get it all!! What punishment is this? Why is it do they day don't go to jail in Mexico or Turkey? BECAUSE THE TREAT CRIMINALS LIKE THE SCUM THEY ARE!!
BoBo
2:00 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Guns don`t kill people,people kill people.Craigslist doesn`t kill people,people kill people.Its sad to see the people who know nothing about Craigslist condemning it because of the lunatics out there looking for an easy buck.Think a minute.You could advertise in your local paper and still get killed.Craigslist is not the problem.Its people thats the problem,people.I`ve bought and sold on Craigslist since its inception and I have never had a problem.All you have to do is use common sense.Craigslist is a super site and its free.Judge only the people using this site for illegal crimes and don`t judge the site.Ahem.
chase Nixon
2:00 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I will tell you what is wrong with Craigslist.. The real problem is- it's free. When something is free, it
opens the doorway for the serious abusers.If a person had to pay to use Craigslist, you would have less criminals and scam artist. Mainly because you would have to identify who you are to place an ad.
Also, the fact you had to pay to use the service, the people who offered things would be more quality
people who understand business and commerence.
Bill Cullum
2:02 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
i AM SO SAD TO HEAR THAT THIS YOUNG MAN was cut down before his life even started, I feel so sorry for his Family and what they must be going through. We live in a sad World, When you cant even go to buy something, without worrying about will I get killed for this. I hope that the three punks that did this get the DEATH penalty. I know they wont, But I will be happy if they got life without mercy. They showed no care for human life. If they was to get a death sentance, I would be more than happy to pull the switch for his family. Again my Heart goes out to the Family and his Girlfriend. God bless you all.
Jay
2:03 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Once again, African American's committing the crimes. Not racist, just look at the news. Not all blacks commit crimes but most of your crimes are committed by blacks! That's a fact Jack!! When was the last time you saw an Asian beating and robbing an old woman? As a matter of fact, I would call this crime racism based on the fact that the victims were white and the perpetrators were black.
trisha
2:16 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Amen.
Belinda Garner
2:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
To the ones that want to blame the parents of the 3 that killed. Once your child is driving and getting away from home, you have to pray that they are doing the right thing while away from you. Parents raise their children to a certain age and then you pray they are being good while on their own. You really can't control what they do now, you just pray the skills you parented with are good enough to guide them down the right path. I don't know what kind of parents they have but the parents know if they need to take responsibility of what their sons have done. I pray for the family of this young man that died in vein. And I pray for his girlfriend. I'm sure she is having a very difficult time with what she witnessed. And I pray for the family of the sons that killed this young man. Craigs List should really screen the people they are letting advertise on the website. I know CL not to blame of the killing itself, but too many are using CL as a way to commit their crimes.
Dana
2:06 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I'm so sorry to read this. I found the young man on Facebook. A beautiful young man who had a full life ahead of him.
Reba
2:07 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I send my condolences to the parents who lost this beautiful young son! My heart goes out to the family and his girlfriend. How tragic he lost his life by kids who planned deliberately to injure or kill. They should be held responsible for their actions. Death Penalty! An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but what about a life for a life? Why should they get to live? They had no respect for someone else's life! That was deliberate planning; they were old enough to know right from wrong! There is good advice given on here about selling anything from a website and meeting people! I was nearly suckered into a bad transaction myself, but fortunately saw through it in time to avoid losing money or my life! It wasn't Craigslist, but any seller sites can be bad if a gun is involved!
jeffory blackmon
2:07 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
as sad as it is , in this day and age you can be as carefull as can be and still be put on the choping block. some times it seams right and wrong get between lifes circumstances and turns into the question ?, why!
as much as we know , we have no answers! it has taken me many years and many mistakes to come an understanding , never assume that peeple are always the way your heart is! sad to say but true, be diligant and also trust is a earnd creadt! be carfull,!
Carol
4:42 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yes, this sad but so very true.
JOYCE WELKER
2:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
We use our computer to keep in touch with freinds etc.. and to look for information or playing games... Why in the hell does these punks have to ruin things.. and I darn sure hope they get the death penalty and fast . so tired of hearing about prisons being over growded and so on and so on..AND WE PAY AND PAY FOR THEIR KEEP.... gun down in the prim of his life just to make themselves look like a big shot.. feel really sorry for thier parents to have to live with that thier child killed another human being .AND SO MUCH FOR THE PARENTS WHO LOST THEIR CHILD.. AS I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO LOOK AT YOUNG ADULT SON.... so sad as this world gets worse and worse.. REST IN PEACE AND HOPE GOD WATCHES OVER YOU .... JOYCE
DON PORTER
2:10 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
TO THE WALL WITH THEM.
John
2:11 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The "suspects" have unusual first names.
Jennifer
2:11 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is so sad to me. Reading all of these posts.
These young people should be punished for they're crime, weather they are black, red, white, yellow or purple.
They took another young man's life away from him. This is a tragedy.
I am sad that in this day and age everything always seems to come down to
rasicm.
Garett Berki is the victim here. This was a senseless tragedy.
As was Lara Logan when she was Sexually assualted in Tahrir Sqaure.
I am Jewish and supposedly we have devil horns in our head.
A CRIME was committed and a young life lost.
My heart goes out to the family and friends of Garrett.
trisha
2:11 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
craigs list is not responsible. And this incedent and the other few does not mean that everybody should completely avoid using craigs list.... it is a great resource. But you have to be smart about it! As has been said already, you should always meet in a VERY public area. Im not going to stop going to church because a bunch of sicko priests raped little boys, nor am I going to avoid exposing my children to religion due to it. I am not going to stop going grocery shopping because people get mugged in grocery store parking lots. Wondering if I made my point.
I feel horrible for the family, friends and girlfriend of this young man. It is truly tragic. I feel bad for the parents of the kids who ruthlessly murdered him as well. I cant fathom being the parent of somebody who did such a thing.
As for the race comments.... SORRY. There are nowhere near as many white kids who would have done such a thing as black. The American society has so fed into the ghetto mentality it is absurd. I keep hearing people saying that giving welfare and all that to people who simply refuse to work or do better for themselves and their families is preventing them from stealing...... BOGUS. We are KEEPING THEM COMFORTABLE IN THEIR POVERTY! and in case nobody realized this, taking from the taxpayers (hard working americans) in order to avoid GETTING OFF THEIR REAR ENDS, going to school and getting a JOB is............. STEALING!
John
2:12 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The "suspects" have very unusual first names !
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:30 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yes. This is why the media often times will not reveal the names of non-white suspects to protect them from the most horrible thing in the world, stereotyping! Murdering an innocent person is not the most horrible thing in the world, it is stereotyping, to hear it from the suburban "liberals".
trisha
2:14 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Oh... and to the guy playing his little violin about how awful these "pooor guys" are going to have it in prison (gus)...... If somebody doesn't want to have it horrible in prison then THEY SHOULDN'T BREAK THE EFFING LAW!
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:18 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Right on, sista! You said it!
Cheryl Horner
2:17 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This sad story shouldn't be considered a racial issue. I am black women and if my child was shoot by a black or white, I would be crazy!!! Craig's List is dangerous!!! You don't what type of people you will come in contact with in a sale transaction. In this situation, I would given them what they wanted and not go after them for their plate number!!! I would said to my girl friend thank God they didn't harm us. Then go the police and report what had happen. Please people are dangerous!!!!!!
NOT DUMB ENUFF TA SAY HAHAHA
2:18 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
INJECT THESE KILLERS. IF YOU CAN KILL ANYONE TA START WITH YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT THINK MUCH OF YOUR LIFE AND FRANKLY THEY SHOULD DIE. THEY HAVE NOT RIGHT TA GO TA SERVE A LIFE SENTENCE!!!!! IF THEY SERVE THEY WIN BASICALLY HALF OF KILLERS DO NOT EVEN THINK OF THE PERSON THEY KILL SO IF IT WAS THAT EASY TA KILL OVER SOME DANG MONEY AND CELL PHONES BECAUSE THE BOY HAD THE BALLS TA CHASE HIS ASS DOWN AND GET HIS LIFE TAKEN THEY DESERVE A DANG INJECTION INSTANT DEATH STILL JUST DOES NOT SEEM TO BE ENOUGH FOR THIS MATTER!!! YOUNG OR NOT THEY KNEW RIGHT FROM WRONG I HAVE BEEN AROUND GUNS MY WHOLE LIFE!! THEIR PARENTS SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT THEM ALITTLE BETTER AND AT THAT MATTER OVER MONEY AND CELL PHONES WHY IN THE GOOD GOLLY IS THIS PARENTS OR SO CALLED PARENTS NOT SUPPORTING THEIR OWN DANG KIDS AND ON THAT DANG NOTE A 17 YEAR OLD HAS NO BUSINESS AND I DO MEAN NOOO BUSINESS TRADING SELLING NOR BUYING WITHOUT A DANG GAURDIAN PRESENT!!! IT SICKINESS ME TA SEE WHAT MY KIDS HAVE TA BE RAISED AROUND!!!THESE PARENTS NEED TO BE GIVING THESE 17 YEAR CHILDREN MONEY OR MAKE THERE BUTTS GET A REAL DANG JOB!!! CUZ KILLIN AINT ONE!!! MY HEART TRULY GOES OUT TA HIS FAMILY FRIENDS GIRLFRIEND AND ALL OF THE ABOVE HOWEVER I KNOW WHERE I COME FROM THEY ARE ALREADY SAYING DEATH PENAILTY !!!! I BELEVIE IF THE FAMILY STANDS FIRM IT WILL AND SHOULD HAPPEN TA THEM!!! AND PLEASE REMEBER DO ONTO OTHERS AS THEY WOULD DO ONTO YOU!!!! WITH THAT BEING SAID DEATH PENAILTY PLEASE!!!!!
nonnie22
2:21 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Whatever their sentence, I just hope they serve it! I'm so fed up with people getting say, a 25 year sentence and then serving 7 or something like that. And they get out early because of "good behavior". Really? Doesn't their crime negate any future good behavior while incarcerated??
Heck, send 'em to Texas ... we'll kill 'em!
Fran
2:21 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
At least this young man who was killed has the hope of resurrection back to life on an earth where there will be no more wickedness as the wicked will be destroyed by God's kingdom or heavenly government. Psalms 37:10,11. Then, he can be reunited with his family and friends. As to those who caused his murder, they are accountable to God and their lives, or lack thereof, rest with Him.
Michael
2:24 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
these people should be charged with urban terrorism
and RE: to the guy playing his little violin about how awful these "pooor guys
who gives a crap how bad of a life they will have in prison these guys belong there they took someones life because they were to lazy to get a job and go buy there own shit
and i also dont wish death upon them i think prison for the rest of there life is good enough
them spending all that time knowing there never going home
NOT DUMB ENUFF TA SAY HAHAHA
2:30 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
HOME CAN BE ANYWHERE YOU MAKE IT. PUTTING A LIFE SENTENCE ON THEM WILL ONLY MAKE IT WHERE WHEN THEY DO GET OLDER THEY CALL THE PRISON HOME. PRISON IS A WAY OUT. THEY STILL GET VISITORS AND MONEY ON BOOKS PHONE CALLS JUST LOCKED IN A BULDING TA WHERE MOST OF THIER FREEDOM IS GONE. WHEN U THINK ABOUT IT A DEAD LIFE IS MORE PUNISHMENT THAN A PRISON LIFE UNLESS THEY CAN EVERYDAY HAVE THE WORST EXPERIENCE THERE. SO IF THEY WANT A PUNISHMENT DEATH PENAILTY IS FOR THIS MATTER I DO THINK BUT ALTHOUGH IF IT WAS THAT EASY TO KILL AT 17 OVER MONEY AND CELL PHONES AFTER 20 YEARS HOW EASY WOULD IT BE TA KILL FOR THINGS YOU NEED IN LIFE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP AND ONLY KNOW THE PRISON SYSTEM?
ny
2:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
seriously, why are people quick to say '' i hope they get life or worse death'' ur just as bad as those people who killed this kid.if it was ur brother or son facing these charges would you want them to be in prison for life or killed by lethal injection.the kids an idiot for chasing those kids who robbed him, but no everyones a tough guy until they get hurt.
NOT DUMB ENUFF TA SAY HAHAHA
2:35 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
REALLLLYYYY?????? NO IF MY BROTHER OR MOTHER OR FATHER AND OR SON DAUGHTER DID THIS I WOULD BE IN THE DANG FRONT ROW SAYING DEATH PENAILTY.. NO I WOULDNT WANT MY FAMILY NOR FRIENDS TO DIE THAT WAY BUT HEY IF U CAN KILL DANGGIT YOU SURE AA HECK DESEVER TA DIE CUZ COMPARED TA THE FAMILY OF THE KILLERS TA THE FAMILY OF THE VICTIM PLEASE THEY HAVE THEIR HOODLUMS ALIVE AND KILLING SO NO YOU SHOULD HIGHLY THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THAT IS THE UPPER MOST IGNORANT THING I HAVE READ. IF YOU WILL STAND BEHIND ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY FOR KILLING THEN YOU YOURSELF MAY JUST BE AS GUILTY AS THEM!! SORRY NOT BEING MEAN BUT JUST SAYIN
Wolfman
2:31 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The internet including all the Patch websites are changing our soceity and the way we live
Mike
2:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I agree, Craigslist, like life, needs to be used with caution. But Craigslist is not the villain here. I use craigslist frequently and it is an awesome way of selling things that are not so easy to ship, like furniture or firewood. Ebay has its own ways of verifying identity of buyers and sellers. Perhaps Craigslist should at least take a few steps towards user verification, and mybe use a feedback system? However no matter what you do, bad people will still find ways to hurt or kill. Someone made the comment about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson not being there because they only stand up for blacks. That's not entirely true, if they think thay can get publicity or a check out of it, they will be there. Also since this planned & calculated murder was performed by a gang, why not treat the gang as terrorists? they should hunt down the leaders of this gang and shoot them in the head like they did UBL and put their porn collection up for sale on Craigslist. Seal Team 6 can take them out.
rashon jones
2:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This is a hate crime, and should be prosecuted as a hate crime. We need justice for the victims, not sympathy for the racist criminals. They should be tried as adults and removed from civilized society all together.
SuspectBlackMale
3:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
That's FUNNY!! you are so cute for saying that but WHITES CAN'T BE VICTIMS of HATE CRIMES, only offenders.
OF COURSE IT WAS A HATE CRIME but this one and all the other hate crimes BY BLACKS AGAINST WHITES will NEVER BE PROSECUTED as such
Carol
4:34 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It would be a hate crime "if" the ad solicited a particular race to answer...
The criminal(s) would have robbed whomever answered irregardless of their race...
The murder occurred because the victims fought back not because of their race...
The role that race played, if any at all, in this crime was purely by chance...
Danielle
2:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Who are all you people responding on here? Are you local San Diegans? If you watched the news these barbaric cowards are BLACK!!! They are barbaric for committing such a senseless act, yet cowards who duck down and hide their faces when the news cameras are surrounding them. We have filth in our world and these punk 17 year old boys are them. They are animals in a pack, they only have strength in their pack. Those who say they aren't/weren't black must not possess any brain cells to put two and two together. You can call me racist all you want, but I have been a victim of this same pack mentality within my own Indian culture as an adolescent. Believe it or not there are groups of races who will not and cannot function in a normal productive society. These are a collection of individuals who are weak, who see no way out or just simply are defects. The only legal ramifications are to put them away in mental houses or prison until their deaths. WAKE UP OUT THERE PEOPLE!!
You cannot put your guard down. Craigslist has nothing to do with his death and should not be shut down. We, especially our children need to be taught to always be aware of these predators, to make wise decisions when making purchases or selling...never go to someone's house, especially at night and in unfamiliar territory, always have several people with you and do your transaction during the day in a PUBLIC place with cameras. I send my condolences to Garret's family.
Poot
3:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Seek help.
jhonte
2:08 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Bietch your rascist & your gonna go to Hell and burn for Life for saying some of the things you said may god be with you & your family cos yur a craazzzzy Bietch and need some help people die every fukkn day sheesh bietch get the fck over it you people erk me cos you only do it cos he was white and black peope did it !
jhonte
2:08 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Bietch your rascist & your gonna go to Hell and burn for Life for saying some of the things you said may god be with you & your family cos yur a craazzzzy Bietch and need some help people die every fukkn day sheesh bietch get the fck over it you people erk me cos you only do it cos he was white and black peope did it !
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
All the black people, uh african-americans, sorry! commenting on here are predictably making excuses for these three young pieces of trash!
When was the last time white people made excuses for the crimes of other whites? You rarely see that! White people have the decency to be ashamed of white criminals.
Poot
3:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
...what the f* are you talking about?
C
2:34 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Everytime I turn around I hear something bad connected to C.L.. I believe C.L. is CURSED.! Personally I think at this point anyone who uses CL for anything needs their head examined.
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
eBay is full of scums too! Craigslist just attracts more criminals because it is free and too easy to use.
Ray
2:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I`m in chicago. watch the news, 90% of murders, robbery are commited by blacks! Open your bleeding hearts and eyes, and you will see. The overwhelming majority of welfare, and charitable aid are (guess what?), BLACKS! They know how to work the system, we reward them for having babies, and they subsidize their aid with crime. Bring on vigilantes for lightning fast justice. The courts are too slow, very inadequate, and way too politically correct. Afraid to offend anybody. Remember the O.J. case? After the verdict, the whites were silent and stunned. The blacks were cheering, because he got away with murdering two whites. Isn`t that racist? Sharpton and Jackson, where are you? One more thing we whites should give the blacks; quick capital punisment. Electric chair anyone?
Russell Edwards
5:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
yes the chair tomorrow!!!! don't wast more of the working peoples money the welfare people don't care cause all they do is suck off the tax payers...there bitchen cause the goverment want's to drug test them befor they get any welfar and 90% will fail the drug test...
Wade
6:06 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Sad but absolutely true Ray! And when the white cops were acquitted for the Rodney King beating, the animals rioted. History is proof.
Shawn Mitchell
9:34 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Your a damn idiot,dumb ass!!!
Lord help us
2:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Does anyone else envy the lives of the Amish? Judging the "content of their character", the ones that forgave the white man that shot the school children have set the standard of the Golden Rule for the rest of us.
Chiaki
2:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The truly sad part is how quickly the general media down played, minimized and eventually forgot about that story. As I remember, the victims familes even went to the burial of the killer, and helped his wife. Now, this is after a killer, who let all of the boys go free, killed only little school girls.............. Each of us can make a difference in this world, it is our choice.
stacy
2:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I am so sorry for this young man's family.All you holier than Thou,wouldn't use the N word if 3 of them were raping your daughter,GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE. Maybe they get stereo typed b/c 80% of the race IS like this today,other races committ way too many crimes also. African Americans commit a GREAT majority.They blame everything but themselves.Look at Greg Matthis.He went from a thug to judge in 15 years.It's just easier to sell drugs and rob than to get a REAL .We can't even use the word Negroe,which is definitive of the race.To the stupid person who said they couldn't find N in the dictionary,you WILL find nigrescent,nigrify,nigritude,and nigrisine.Over the years the race has demanded to be called different things.We can't say colored people but we can say people of color.They have wanted to be called Afro Americans, Blacks, brothers.Women are no more than Hos.I am so passionate because I am a 50yr. old BLACK man!Raised on the South side of Chicago,my 2 best friends were a Spic and a Whop.DESPITE all of the hardships,my Spic friend does not flip burgers and my Whop friend didn't join the Mob.We supported each other, got through school,then went our ways to each earn a Masters. I'm sure the black community is saying," if these guys was crackers they be gettin a slap on da wrist!" When the African Americans of MY country start acting like a civilized race, I will call them "My People". I had to seriously edit this for character maximum, so punctuation is horrendous, I know
beth ritter
3:07 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Stacy, you are someone who relies on your own character and that is rare in this day and age. I applaud your post!
Gail
2:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
is there any way Craiglist cab be shut down ?
flor
2:45 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I do sell on craigslist and I been doing this for over 2 years now, and this news just affect my business and I think it does to many others that used craigslist to make some money and pay their bills, thanks to craigslist I was able to sell enough exercise equipment and I was able to pay my house that it was closed to foreclosure and because of idiots like this one we loss lot of money.
SuspectBlackMale
3:29 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
"is there any way Craiglist cab be shut down ?"
You mean ONE MORE THING RUINED BY BLACK VIOLENCE??
Poot
3:45 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
How about we shut down the world because someone commits crime? Let's ground all the planes, there was a crash.
Wade
6:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Why would you shut CL down? It's not Craig's List's fault that these three boys wanted to make an easy buck. It's not CL's fault they are criminals. Next you'll be wanting to ban spoons because Rosie O'Donnell is morbidly obese! You're probably one of those who think that guns should be banned. Another ignorant knee-jerk reaction that would leave only the criminals armed, and the innocent defenseless. If you have to lay blame, then lay it squarely on the shoulders of the lazy animals that did the crime!
stiff
2:44 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
somebody got killed by bad people it has nothing to do with race. the person is still dead think of the family that is mourning a loss. the why what where doesn't matter. there is folk out there hurting right now thats what matters. think
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
2:59 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
well at least your not bringing up that smarmy god or jesus crap
SuspectBlackMale
3:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE? If the IDIOT who put himself in this position had been taught HOW VIOLENT BLACKS are instead of "crime has no color" garbage, HE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS KILLED HIM and the BLACK BEASTS were just there to make sure it happened
Blacks committed 52 % of all homicides between 1976-2005; blacks are only 12% of the population!
And a direct quote from the FBI/DOJ:
"Blacks are over 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide".
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
CARJACKINGS:
Victims identified the offenders' race as black in 50% of all carjackings, white in JUST 32% and Asian or American Indian in 6%.
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/sudoc/image_30000053565374/30000053565374/ascii/c.txt
Blacks make up HALF of convicted violent offenders in prison
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvvoatv.pdf
gregory
2:48 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I am in agreement with you and certainly believe that when the fear of God is missing in society these are the consequences. Also, Our government is to be blame for a lot of this madness because they spend too much time arguing among themselves that has very little to do with proper governance. There is a break down right there in Washington and until such time that godly behavior is demonstrated by our leaders, there will be no end to this awful disrespect.
Mike
2:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I've learned that the N word should be used to describe someone whom has no real social value, regardless of race. Someone whom is a burden on society. Take a look at gangs for a moment, what social value do they posess? I say none. So I guess we could refer to them using the N word. It's kinda funny they regard themselves that way in their "gangsta rap". They drop the N bomb all the time in rap lyrics. What's the difference? Why doesn't the legal system do something about gangs? I'll tell ya if it weren't for gangs and illegals most democrats could never get elected.
Wade
6:19 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You got THAT right Mike! Well Stated!
Marisal
2:58 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Seriously? People actually doubt that the three cowards are not black? How many whites or Hispanic or Asians have you met named Rashon, Seandell or Shaquille? It is NOT racist to assume they are black. It also is not racist to assume that they were given a free education. Obviously they did not use the education for good purposes but rather to fit right into the stereotypical black youth who feels entitled because the government (or should I say Taxpayers) paid for their education, housing & food. Most likely there are no fathers involved in their upbringing either. Disgusting that entitlements still exist because most abuse them. These three are prime examples. Too bad the police didn't just shoot them all & save the taxpayers the money spent on a trial for three rotten, cowardly, ignorant animals.
beth ritter
2:59 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
To all the comments saying "uhhh gee you know white people commit crimes and kill people too...uhhh, it's all races that do stuff like that"...yes, it's true, all races have their share of criminals...but when you compare the numbers of who is in jail racially, well come on now...the numbers speak for themselves....(or maybe whites are smart enough to get away with more without getting caught???)
Since people are being called racists here because of how they feel lets see...do the facts of whose in jail lie???
The incarceration rate in state or federal prison or jail for men was 1,384 per 100,000 residents, for women 134 per 100,000 residents. The rate for white men was 736 per 100,000, for black men 4,789 per 100,000, for Hispanic men 1,862 per 100,000. The rate for white women was 94 per 100,000, for black women 358 per 100,000, and for Hispanic women 152 per 100,000.
Source: Sabol, William J., PhD, Minton, Todd D., and Harrison, Paige M., Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear 2006 (Washington, DC: US Department of Justice, June 2007), NCJ217675, p. 9, Table 14.
SuspectBlackMale
3:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Even better, the following lays out the CLEAR FACTS about who is committing the worst violent crimes. (SUSPECT BLACK MALE)
Blacks committed 52 % of all homicides between 1976-2005; blacks are only 12% of the population!
And a direct quote from the FBI/DOJ:
"Blacks are over 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide".
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
CARJACKINGS:
Victims identified the offenders' race as black in 50% of all carjackings, white in JUST 32% and Asian or American Indian in 6%.
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/sudoc/image_30000053565374/30000053565374/ascii/c.txt
Blacks make up HALF of convicted violent offenders in prison
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvvoatv.pdf
Mike
3:34 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I think I saw this on an episode of "Criminal Minds" once. There actually is a serial killer called The Craigslist Killer. I think it was in New Jersey or New York. White on white crime usually involves white collar crimes like wiping out peoples entire bank accounts and Ponzi Schemes. Then we have the white psychopathic serial killer who hates women and gays.
P off
3:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Fry their A$$'S
They need to DIE. Craigslist is horrible and there are too many shady people on there. You know it's funny that only blacks can sing about being a nigger but if a white person says it then were racist. Well guess what you black people are more racist then I am because all you people keep wanting to hook up with white people to have light skinned kids!!! Keep to your own kind. Whores!
I wish I could flip the switch on these effen idiots.
chronik
3:04 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Horrible.
Too bad those three can't just be given the death penalty already. Tax dollars don't deserve to be spent on pieces of shit like this. And this is coming from someone who is very liberal.
palijim
3:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I would treat the shooter like Obama treated Osama Bin Laden. Execute him. Why not?
tc
3:10 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Doesn't matter rather your black or white. If you kill someone you should die for the crime. Why should the persone live. Do like they did hundreds of years ago. The justice system stinks and that is putting it mildly. People are getting away with murder.Sick of all this race crap.We're in this beautiful country and we should help one another. This young man did not deserve to die nor does alot of other innocent people. I blame the justice system. We could save millions of dollars instead of wasting on people serving time for murdering someone and they are still alive.
SuspectBlackMale
3:24 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Aww TRUTH HURT?? The good thing is that IGNORANT little PC-NAZIS like YOU are the ones who end up like this kid. You can be proud to know that blacks are more than happy to help you die for yourtwisted beliefs.
Blacks committed 52 % of all homicides between 1976-2005; blacks are only 12% of the population!
And a direct quote from the FBI/DOJ:
"Blacks are over 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide".
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
CARJACKINGS:
Victims identified the offenders' race as black in 50% of all carjackings, white in JUST 32% and Asian or American Indian in 6%.
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/sudoc/image_30000053565374/30000053565374/ascii/c.txt
Blacks make up HALF of convicted violent offenders in prison
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvvoatv.pdf
Wade
6:25 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You said it tc! Save the money and put these dogs to sleep. And air on prime time TV. I bet THAT would push the crime rate down.
mikew
3:23 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
hang them now. why do we waste the tax payers money
Sam
3:29 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
They should get Life in the "GAS CHAMBER" with no chance of parole. The chamber would be a hole in the ground, about 5' x 5' x 15' high with a ceiling with potty holes in it. I'll let someone else give the details. My heart goes out to Garrett's family and Girlfriend. It's hard enough coping with the loss of a loved one due to illness, especially at such a young age. But a sudden and senseless murder..........that must be difficult for them.
Dariubs Fontaine
3:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I don't think these 3 guys are black, in fact int makes no sense!. There must be some mistake. I'm sure they're 3 dark skinned Mexicans
Poot
3:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Good to see you don't support the Constitution of the United States. Doesn't that make you a traitor?
Wade
6:29 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yeah, with names like, Rashon, Seandell and Shaquille, they must be Mexicans. No matter the color, they should be put to death quickly and inexpensively. Only this will begin to servea s a deterrent to these animals. All they understand is violence. Prayers for the family of the victim.
Tonni
3:34 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Don't focus on "Craigslist" when the focus should be on crime and lack of punishment. Until we as a society stand, deciding that our consequences are not enough to deter criminals, and find new ways to punish people for the horrific ways they treat our children, mothers, fathers, grandparents and each other, criminals win. Our Judges and courts need more tools for punishment. Our jails are full nation wide, people turned away with time served, just for showing up to serve their weekend after robbing a home ! You lose everything, they gain it all ! The label we give them no longer matters, as a felon they lose nothing, people don't care.We have been taught to be PC and accept everyone flaws and all. There is no reward for high standards. The cost of consequences must be worse/more then the crime.
Sherylynne
3:35 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Whatever authority has the power needs to shut Craigslist down! How many people now have lost their lives because of a contact from that website? No matter the actual number, the answer is too many. It attracts vermin and makes it too easy for this type of thing to happen. Short of shutting it down, users need to use extreme caution when dealing with strangers posting on that site or be contacted by people responding to their ad. An 18 year old man loses his life for cash and cellphones. Beyond tragic. If there was ever a reason for three people to get the death penalty, this is it. My condolences to his mother and family. She needs to stay strong and push for justice for her son.
T
3:40 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
i COULDN'T AGREE MORE Sherilyn..........THOSE KIDS NEED TO GET THE DEATH PENALTY ESP. SINCE THEY HAVE A WITNESS WHO CAN I.D. THEM , HIS GIRLFRIEND......PLEASE ALL PRAY THAT THIS FAMILY GETS JUSTICE FOR THEIR
SON!!!!!!!
T
3:38 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
i HOPE LIKE HELL THOSE KIDS GET THE DEATH PENALTY ............NOTHING ELSE WOULD BE JUSTICE.
Poot
3:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
What is this "item" that was being bought, and why is it so obviously being avoided mentioning what it is?
LOU ROMANO
3:42 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
ALL 3 SHOULD BE TURNED UP SIDE DOWN AND LET THE BLOOD GO TO THERE HEADS.... WHY WOULD ANYONE USE CRAIGS LIST AS YOU SEE ALOT OF PPL GETTING KILLED JUST FOR NOTHING AND IF YOU USE THEM AND IT DOES NOT WORK SAYING A CAR YOU OUT OF MONEY. I WISH THEY WOULD GO OUT OF BUSINESS.......... RIP IN PEACE AND SRY TO THE FAMILY.....THEY WHO ROB AND KILL SHOULD GET GAS AND NOT WASTE OUR MONEY.CRAIGS LIST DOES NOT CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ANYONE THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY..PLS DO NOT USE THEM THANK YOU
doug todd
3:45 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
These little thuglets need to get the maximum penalty allowed by law.
Lish
3:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
THAT POOR MOTHER!! What a waste of a life. My heart goes out to her. As for the crime, as a minority, I'm not ashamed or apologetic for saying what is widely documented. Black crime, especially black on black crime has reached astronomic proportions. Just ask Bill Cosby and those who are speaking out. This is not a racist statement, just a factual one. Failing to
face the facts for fear of being called a racist is ludicrous. I would feel the same thing if the statistics were reversed. There's too much coddling today where people are afraid to speak up no matter where evil raises its ugly head. God help America!!
Sherylynne
3:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
For all you people who want to harp about color...black or white...it is NOt a racial issue. It's a human issue and no matter what the skin color, the punishment should fit the crime. Death penalty is too good because those that are sentenced to death get better "accommodations," better food and more privelege because they are not expected to be there very long. The reality, however, is that some luxuriate there for 20+ years. It is too bad that the "social climate" that existed after 9/11 didn't become permanent. No one looked at color then, we embraced each other and identified as Americans. No matter what color these criminals are, it is not their race but their lack of humanity that drove them to kill this young man. And that propensity does not favor any particular color. Hasn't anybody had enough of this after all these years???
julie
4:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Right on Sherylynne! Anyone commenting on black crime statistics has got to be prejudice, which makes them look foolish and totally ignorant toward facts and reality. For example, in response to one of the above comments regarding more blacks in prison than whites, how off the wall and irrelevant is that relating to this particular case? How inconsiderate and insensitive towards the victim's family/friends this must be?!?
That's like saying, "Because the CL killer of all those females was white, that most serial killers are white." Or better yet, "History shows the majority of convicted serial killers are caucasion or white!" But I'll bet at the time of investigation, such people will overlook color and focus on finding the killer (especially if one of theirs was amongst the many females of all colors murdered by a single white guy)! So you see, not only do we pray for justice to be served, but also for the many simple-minded idiots out there who provoke and promote ongoing racial issues/problems!
Wade
4:56 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Yeah, you're right! It IS too bad, but if this would've been a black kid killed by three white kids it would be a hate crime covered by the worldwide news. Jesse and Reverend Al would be preaching hellfire & Brimstone over the devil white man, and the killers would have 20 years added to their sentences. So yeah, you're right. It shouldn't be racial, but pigs like Jesse and Al make it that way. All murders are "hate" crimes, no matter the color. The punishment should be the same. DEATH! We as taxxpayers should not have to pay to incarcertate this scum for 30-50 yearas and pay for their education, so they can come out lawyers or terrorists.
edward
3:22 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
Whatever. It's that ty[e of silly idealist thinking that got this young man killed. I'm Black, young black males commit the majority of violent crime. If he had sped off once he saw the sellers were young black men he would be alive today. So saying this is not about race is bordering on moronic.
People need to start having street smarts. If folks get offended so be it at least you'll be alive for another day.
mike
3:53 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Was it crack this guy was buying?
Lou
6:33 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
NBC/SanDiego news said the item advertised was a $600.00 Mac Computer
Wolfman
3:54 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
it is all Obamas Fault
ELAINE
3:55 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
SHOOT THE STUPID BASTARDS AND SAVE THE TAXPAYERS THE TIME AND EXPENSE OF A TRIAL. CRAIGLISTS IS GOOD IN SOME WAYS BUT IT IS AN AVENUE FOR SCUMBAGS TOO. PEOPLE POST JOB OFFERINGS THAT ARE NON-EXISTENT TO STEAL IDENTITIES. SICK JERKS ADVERTISE FOR NUDE HOUSEKEEPERS, IT'S TONS OF BULLSH*T. CHARGE PEOPLE A FEW DOLLARS TO POST AN AD, THAT WOULD ELIMINATE HALF THE TRASH POSTED. MYHEART GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY OF THIS CHILD. I HOPE HIS KILLERS ROT IN HELL.
Dean
3:58 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Bring back the death penalty. ALL violet crimes should carry it, be they white, black, brown..whatever. None of these Lame excuses for committing these violet crimes, (I had a tough paper route, I was abused as a child, my great great grandma was a slave)
minn
4:04 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I don't know what these young people are thinking" or not thinking" is more like it. I don't think that they realize that what happens in this life is
what they take with them to the next life. The crimes and the killings they comit goes with them..... sorry for them, because hell for all eternal is a decided wrong choise. Some people think that they are forgiving, for what they do is forgiving....... maybe some are forgiving by some, but the pushiment is yet to come....the prisons are full of people who think that they may be forgiving, but they will die and go to another life where spirital prison is. This is so very sad, it is sad for everyone, we want to trust you and sell our stuff....but if we can't ....it leave me with ????? what can we do to make it safer for our friends, family and our youngsters. This is so heart breaking! Pray always!
Melanie Blum
1:54 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
An excellent book - The Gift of Fear - by Gavin De Becker explains why we do things that are risky, despite our internal "gut" feelings that we should flee, and run. Animals never lose that "gut" reation; people do because it is politically or socially correct. In this case, it sadly left a young man dead. No doubt, he had some "gut" reaction beforehand, but ignored it. A good lesson for all to listen to your instincts. They never fail you.
Larry Kirchhoff
4:05 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
these murderers should be put to death, I don't want them rehabilitated. I hope someone can get ahold of one of these idiots and take their time with him. Make them beg for forgiveness before you end them. If I could do it I would. I am a family man with two small children and a loving wife. If anyone ever did something like this to my family, I would not care to live anymore, until I saw them, or was able to destroy their lives myself.
Don
4:09 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Another senseless death with no remorse on the part of the creeps. I hope this young man was a child of God. If he was he is better off than we are now. I think this is another vote for gun carry permits and gun ownership. The creeps may get off with less than the punishment they deserve but that's not the judgement that counts. Jesus said "Revenge is mine, I shall repay". They don't have a clue what their in for.
julie
4:10 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I hold CL responsible for any and all crimes that stem from their site and let these past crimes be a wake up call! CL needs to start some kind of security system ensuring that any criminal activity resulting from CL will be tracked and therefore all criminals will get caught! I mean... fix it or quit it!!!
bob comings
4:16 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Are you kidding..if they were black or Hispanic they would be released to kill again.....I can't believe all the bad grammar and misspelled words..In site to what is happening to the education system in America.
Kate
4:17 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Too bad they didnt put all that energy into getting jobs and earning a living like normal people do...this is what comes from having children and not being responsible parents...just a bunch of animals...dont care what race they are....too bad they will live out their lives being taken care of by the public while this poor kid has his cut short.
Leslie
4:20 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
They will not get off. This is clearly 1st degree. They planned this robbery. America what is going on with our children. This is not a racial problem this is a country problem. We have to change some of these laws on the book they are to old. It is time for these children to be held accountable for their bad decisions. I feel so bad for his parents. May God be with their family
Freddy Zuniga
4:21 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Death penalty. people like these clowns dont deserve to live. Have you ever heard of getting a job.
Wade
4:24 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
No it's not a raical issue, but if the victim had been black it would be. We'd have Jesse and Reverend Al preachin' fire and brimstone over the white devil's hatred. Prayers for the victim's family and loved ones.
smcaouette@aol.com
4:26 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I am so sick of this,our country has become a cess pool, Most of the judges in this country should be hung,they are worthless.,that is alot of our problems,they are too forgiving, the cops try to do there jobs,and believe me most of the cops are honest,they just have there hands tied behind there back... Hang these bastards,better yet skin them alive,and the best part do it in public. Also bring disapline back both in the schools and homes. When are we going to get it,it all starts at home,more people in this country are single parents then ever before,how the hell does one parent raise chidren,you can't.....You wonder why we have the crime we have.The best slap the shit out of these dumass liberal people,there idiots.
Jim Vineyard
4:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Sorry folks, but you have it all wrong. ALL 1st degree murder MUST be made a FEDERAL crime, since the Supreme has ruled execution to be Constitutional and legal. Upon con-viction, they MUST be taken to Washington, DC for execution, and EXECUTED on the National Mall on Saturdays at HIGH NOON on National Television, by BEHEADING performed by the Attorney General of the United States!!!
CRUCIFIXION
is TOO DAMNED GOOD for these filthy SCUM bastards, but I'll settle for having their heads lopped off IN FRONT of their PARENTS, and then the parents should be charged with DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE TO HUMAN LIFE for failing to prevent their sons from endangering society (their legal obli-gation).
MAYBE THEN PARENTS WOULD START TAKING RESPONSIBILITY!
The ONLY thing that has ever successfully deterred and prevented crime is SWIFT and SURE punishment.
My heart and condolences go out to the parents and girlfriend of this beautiful and innocent boy. Your pain is my pain, and I pray for you and your boy and that justice is served.
My heart also goes out to all the GOOD and decent African Americans of our country, because I know that this heinous and unforgiveable taking of life is not who YOU are. I know how much this must hurt each and every one of you personally...
Jim Vineyard in Spokane, Washington
Russell Edwards
4:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I hope they put these punks, and every other little scum bag punks to death...
Wade
4:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Buyer beware and be ARMED! This is exactly why the innocent and law abiding citizen of today should be licensed to carry for protection. Then maybe at the least the right ones would be six feet under right now. Wake up America, get your CWP!!!
aussie
4:31 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
SO SORRY FOR THE FAMILY OF THIS POOR YOUNG MAN WHO HAD HIS LIFE CUT SHORT BY THESE LOW LIFES. THE GIRL FRIEND I ALSO FEEL REALY BAD FOR SHE WILL BE SCARED FOR LIFE. AS FOR THE 3 LOW LIFES I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL. I COME FROM AUSTRALIA AND SHORE THESE TYPES OF CRIME HAPPEN BUT VERY REARLEY BUT THEY HAPPEN. ALL I CAN SAY IS THINK BEFORE YOU ACT AND THERE IS NO REASON TO TAKE THE LIFE OF A INNCOCENT PERSON. GET REAL PEOPLE AND AS MUCH AS I LIKE THE USA I WOULD NEVER BRING UP A KID HERE AFTER 10 YEARS IVE SEEN ENOUGH.
GOD BLESS THE FAMILY AND THE GIRLFRIEND AND I HOPE THINGS IMPROVE IN THIS COUNTRY WITH PARENTS TAKING MORE TIME OUT FOR THERE KIDS.
Anna Vallone
4:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I buy and sell on CL, and I NEVER meet ANYONE except in a PUBLIC place, and before I even agree to meet them, I Facebook and Google them (I'm a former PI), so that by the time I meet them, I know more about them than they do about me, including the names of their family members! I want to make sure I am dealing with REAL people. And from the first names of these thugs, why would any street smart White person agree to meet with these thugs for anything anyway? The minute I'd see those first names, I wouldn't even respond to their inquiry if they were buying! Call me racist if you want, but this is one racist who is safe and alive because of it!
Torrence
4:32 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It's strange that no one knows what is wrong with this country. I'LL TELL YOU. You won't believe it but I'll tell you anyway. This is a country WITHOUT GOD! Now to all you atheists out there, you are part of the problem. Anyone who believes that at one time nothing decided to become something is a moron. I have debated more than one atheist and it wasn't long before they bailed out of the discussion. Evolution! What a joke and it's being taught in our schools as a fact. Does anyone get the picture yet as to why I made the statement. "GOD IS DEAD" sure holds true in the country and that's why we have the problems we have and deserve every bit of it. "God bless America"....never happen!
Lucy
4:34 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
You are so right. I wish he had just called the police and gave them details of the car. Too many young people gone to soon. I pray for the parents.
Davis
4:34 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
They took his right to live . They need to be paid back in kind. God Help us all !
Anna Vallone
4:37 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
And what's more, I am frankly glad that ghetto moms are giving their kids these freaky names...it enables the rest of us to identify them immediately, without even needing to see them. Thanks, Moms! You've condemned your kids to a lifetime of welfare and burger-flipping with names like those, thereby saving the good jobs for the rest of us!
Russell Edwards
4:37 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
you got that right,jesse an al sharpton would have already been on a plain.flying out there talking all there bull sh..t just like all ways,thats why these punks do this sh..t blame it on the white man grow up get a grip , thats the way it is it's a white man's world, so deal with it...
american
4:41 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
why dont the United States require everyone to get a highschool education-then 4 years of military service and then send them to college-then turn them lose on the public. it should be mandatory!!
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
3:14 pm on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Are all the teabaggers willing to tax the rich to pay for the military?
How is the United States going to pay for all this?
Irene
4:45 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The SOBs should rot in hell and their parents who did a shity job in raising them!!!!
maureen
4:47 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It is good to see Racism is alive and well. Media tries to make it like we all get along. It is hard to get along with Animals such as the Black man or woman.
Irene
4:50 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
CL is for low-lifes, and a cheap and totally unreliable source!!! I don't understand why people bother with such crapy advertisement!!! It's nothing more than a gateway for ruthless low-life scammers who are lazy losers and don't want to get a REAL job and rather kill to make a cheap buck! You all know who I'm talking about...LOSERS!!!
Mac
4:50 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Too many bigoted comments. I just dropped in ealier to express my outrage about the crime and its deserving of the death penalty. If I want to hear "nigger" this and "nigger" that, I'll commit a crime which lands me in the same place all the mindless "nigger", "chink", "kike", "spic", "mick", "whop" and "honkie" haters belong, and we can all cheerfully proceed to kill each other off for he betterment of the outside world.
Until that time, my thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends of the innocent victim and to those of all the victims of the hate-filled bigots of every color and (pin) stripe.
Carol
4:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
My deepest sympathy to the family and friends of Garrett Berki, this young man who stood up to three young selfish criminals. May he rest in peace.
Bob
4:53 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
That's EXACTLY why people should be VERY careful what & from whom they purchase items from online. There are a LOT of nut jobs out there! BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Van
4:53 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
No racism here. Just another sad case of an innocent making a poor decision to follow 3 predators. Just as easily could have been a colored boy from La Jolla. Fortunately the girl didn't get shot as these homeboys could have had a semi-automatic and sprayed the car. Dangerous times when teenagers have more access to weapons and are willing to use them for whatever mayhem
LisaM-Centereach
4:57 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Condolences to the family on their loss. I may not have known your child, but my heart aches for all of you and I am DEEPLY saddened by his death.
Mshollywooddog
4:59 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I hope these bastards get the well deserved treatment in jail - become somebody's B***H!!!!
On the other hand, why would anyone want to engage in a car pursuit with the three gun men that just robbed him at gun point? Over some cash and cell phones he put his own life and his girlfriend's life in jeopardy - the girlfriend is by the way alive by the grace of God only.
May His soul rest in peace, but the last few choices of his life were not the most sound.
John Lindsay
5:03 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Life in prison??? How about a quick trip to death row without appeal for all three of them???
Solms Coutinho
5:08 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Absolutely horrific.What else is there to say.Unless the Justice system has the backbone and proverbal
gonads and passes the death sentence nothing will have changed.He will not rest in peace unless proper
justice will have been served.Amen.
Solms Coutinho/Chilliwack/BC/Canada
John Lindsay
5:10 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
To be factual, I have used Craigslist about 10 times to sell items that I no longer needed. I had good experiences on each occasion. I was careful to screen the offers and meet with the prospective buyers in the parking lot of the hotel where I work in daylight. I also asked for cash and was never turned down. I even had a marker pen to check the bills for counterfeit currency. As with anything related to the internet there are scammers out there but don't consider all people to be like these thugs. Just be smart.
John Brunner
5:35 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
THINK ABOUT IT - its an unfortunate fact - no racism involved - percentage wise the minorities have the most criminals,
murderers, rapists, theives, violent muggers. The major part of the US prison population is minoroities. Think about this also
they tell you all muslims are not terrorists which is true. Problem is 99% of the terrorists are muslim. A Timothy McVeigh
is a rarity. Facts like these easily fuel rascism. Bottom line is there is no place in our society for people like those 3 thugs. White-Black- Red or Yellow they should be executed.
Jo Soutar
5:50 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Everyday now I am hearing more shootings and robberies than ever before. It is so unfortunate that there is one in every neighborhood that has it on their mind. Half of the time they never get caught like the Dodger Stadium attack. My heart goes out to these families that have no closure.
maryann
6:12 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I'm with Helena and under thirty.. make it a public hanging or a public execution. Televise it to let EVERYONE see what will happen once you are caught for murder. This is what is wrong with this frigen country. Too many liberal bleeding hearts. I hope these three ba$tards get everything that is coming to them.
Lou
6:51 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
My sincerest condolences to the family & friends of Mr.Berki
After reading the article, have a guess what the defense for these 3 loons will probably be. They didn't shoot at the girlfriend, so an attorney will try the "They only meant to scare'em, not kill or even hurt either the deceased or young lady with him".
Since there's a very credible eye-witness to everything, the Craig's List posting, robbery, onto the chase to obtain a Lic# & finally, this is the biggie, she can probably point out who actually shot the victim. She can likely ID all 3 of them & on the witness stand the horror of her story will sway any jury of the defendants guilt.
3 evil & very stupid 17yr olds. They've ruined the lives of 4 families & left a young girl with a memory that will haunt her forever.
We've got an express lane to the death chamber in Texas, send them here, C.O.D., but is it ok if they have to spend a year or two in prison with a cellmate named Bubba first?
Kelly Harris
8:44 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
What happened to the photos of Garrett?
Bo
9:25 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I did know this young man, yet my heart aches for a young life cut short, his family who will never resolve the trauma, yet hopefully will learn to endure the pain and survive it as intact as possible. His Mother will be in my prayers. I lived in La Jolla, Pacific Beach and Ocean Beach. La Jolla truly lived to it's name, "The Jewel". It was a town of incredible wealth and extravagance. These kids who took Garret Berli's life will pay, and money will not help them now, I hope. My prayers will also be for his girlfriend who must be so traumatisized. I have lost loved ones much too young and advise all close to Garret get professional assistance to get through this. Justice will be served. Garret is an Angel and will watch his loved ones.
Nicole B.
10:31 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I went t high school with Garrett he was a year younger then me. He was the most caring, goofy, and wonderful person. I still can't believe he is gone. Although we only talked once in a while, it didn't matter his personality was something you could never pass by. I hope you people stop making this about what todo with these murders and make this about Garrett. This world has lost another great soul. Everytime i think of this it makes me wanna cry i just can't believe your gone Garrett. Rest in peace Garrett, you will never be forgotten <3
Bill Wood
11:20 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Why is the La Jolla Patch failing to provide a physical description of the alleged murderers? The rest of us have a right to be protected from people who would commit murder. Thus all news media have a responsibility to report a physical description of alleged murderers ... so we know whom to avoid.
DanaRose31382
12:30 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
CL may have their problems, but you can't blame this on them. This is the fault of three stupid and evil teenagers, not CL. It's sad because a lot of families are going to suffer because of this. Not only the victims, but the families of the defendants will also have to suffer. It's really such a shame. In my martial arts class they teach us the three R's. Regain your senses when attacked, react to the situation, then as soon as possible run away. Don't stay and fight. Another thing they always tell us is don't attempt to disarm someone with a gun. Just give them whatever they want. If even martial arts masters are telling you that then I'd say it's damn good advice. The money or property stolen can be replaced. Your life can't. If this victim had just called the police they could easily have gotten the IP address off of the CL posting leading straight to the criminals doors. He didn't have to worry so much about a license plate and if he was he shouldn't have followed them to a cul de sac. I mean that's a dead end, no escape. But we're talking about a probably not very street wise 18 year old kid who tried to do the right thing based on what he knew. It's a shame that he lost his life over this. Living in NYC you hear stories similar to this all the time. Some people become indifferent. Personally I think it's horrible. Hopefully the ADA and DA will throw the book at them. The ball is in their court now to prove their case. If they fail they're idiots. Even I could win this.
RJ
6:48 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
I WOULD LIKE THEM TO SHOW THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE , (ARE THEY 18 ?) AND AGAIN WHAT GOES WITH THE N/WORD ,LIKE ITS A CRIME, HOW ABOUT THE H/WORD AS IN (HONKY) , NAH THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE WE MUST KISS THEIR BEHINDS BECAUSE MY GREAT,GREAT, GREAT,GREAT GRANDFATHER BOUGHT THESES SLAVES FROM THEIR OWN TRIBE LEADERS WHO HAD THEM AS SLAVES , LETS BE HONEST, AND THEY WANT RETRIBURTION? BECAUSE THEY WENT FROM WORSE TO BETTER. GET A LIFE
Lee
6:57 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
What i've learned from this.....A poor soul was taken and it's sad.
Please people love one another like God wants, don't allow this crime any other crimes make you look at another race as being the same......yeah we will still sterotype, but be sensative. Learn the good things about people, not just All races have fools .....there are GOOD ones too!
In closing, taking a life is just plain WEAK, not STRONG!!
Walk in peace....
Heidi
8:34 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html
read this and tell me crime rate has nothing to do with color!
Heidi
8:37 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
Race, Crime, and Justice in America
Second, Expanded Edition, 2005
Major Findings:
•Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
•Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
•When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
•Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
•The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.
nterracial Crime
•Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
•Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
•Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
•Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice
edward
3:46 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
@Heidi: Amen!! I'm Black (parents are African) and this notion that this isn't about race is absurd. The plain fact is if he exhibited even a marginal racial bias he would be alive. I don't think I would have dealt with this trio if I saw that they were the sellers. I have street smarts and am not infected with liberal silliness.
Folks are in great denial. I refuse to be killed because of political correctness
Heidi
8:37 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
Gangs
•Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
•Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Incarceration
•Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
•Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.
Julez Julian
9:08 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Can you tell us how those number were put together? I have seen kid placed in the game book here in San Diego so that if they ever get into any trouble that will enhance the crime. So it was used as a tactic therefore messing up any statistics used cause these kids were not in gangs. Also do you believe they people put this all together won't slant it?
Heidi
8:41 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime1999.pdf just the facts
Truth is not racism
SuspectBlackMale
12:59 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
MOST SERIAL KILLERS ARE ASIAN IN JAPAN !!!!
Guess what that means about Asians and serial killing?
NOTHING !!!
I love it when liberal PC-NAZI white-hating bigots EXCUSE BLACK VIOLENT CRIME by trying to say, "yeah, well most serial killers are white"
Really?? you mean in a country where 70% of the population is WHITE that whites are the most of anything?
Unless whites are WAY MORE than 70% of the offenders in any crime category, it means NOTHING.
On the other hand, BLACKS are just 12% of the US population. I saw some idiot earlier claiming that nothing was wrong with BLACKS being 32% of sex offenders as if 32% was a small number
HELLO? 12% of the population has no business being more than 12% of the offenders in ANY crime category
THIS COUNTRY is experiencing a BLACK VIOLENT CRIME EPIDEMIC. it is made worse by PC-NAZI thought police who whine and scream "RACIST" if anyone dares to speak the truth. It is because of those people that this IGNORANT WHITE KID DIED.
If he had been taught that VIOLENT CRIME DOES HAVE A COLOR, NEGR0000 Brown, he might still be alive. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS when you teach kids POLITICALLY CORRECT LIES about crime
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IF HE HAD BEEN TAUGHT THE TRUTH, he might still be alive:
Blacks committed 52 % of all homicides between 1976-2005; blacks are only 12% of the population!
"Blacks are over 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide".
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
Julez Julian
1:32 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
@SuspectBlackMale Wow aren't you smart but how many people did whites kill? Spare me your numbers cause many jews, indians, and blacks were killed by who... WHITES! I know you'll say that happened along time ago I'll say so what it doesn't count? Here we go again with you racist using a tragedy to spread your nonsense.
edward
3:53 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
@suspect Amen!! 100% correct.
RJ
1:47 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
IN REPLY TO YOUR COMMENT
THE BIGGEST RACISTS ARE THE GUILTIEST AND YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YES,,,,,,,,,,YOU
ARE RIGHT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,THE BLACKS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
edward
3:20 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
Once he saw the sellers were young black males he should have taken off, period.
lauren
6:20 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
PLEASE STOP. stop arguing!!! it said to leave comments on how garrett has touched your life not to use his death as a way to scream at each other or argue about who is to blame. respect garrett and the friends/family who have had to say goodbye to a great friend. Garrett made everyone laugh, his laugh was infectious. He would go miles to help out a friend and always looked on the bright side of things. please, we have to bury our friend. just please if you're not going to post something good about garretts life, dont post anything else. its disgusting, selfish and rude.
Larry Nelson
5:00 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Suspectblackmale is right on. Young urban blacks have zero respect fore life. They took my beautiful son from me for what, $20.00. They have evolved in a differant manner from whites. They will never be safe, productive citizens, except for a very few exceptions. I taught my son that everyone was equal and should be treated as such. He had black friends when he was young who would come to spend the weekend. I wanted him to see that we are all the same and deserve the same respect. I was totally worong and it cost my son, my only child , my best friend his life. Shot 4 times then thrown in a dump for the bugs and rats to feed on. I hope these 3 monsters that killed Garrett die a slow and agonizing deat at the hand of his mother. Her life is ruined forever. Poor poor lady.
Heidi
5:41 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Larry I'm so sorry for you and so many others that have suffered as result of senseless crimes. As far as teaching my kids, they know the truth and I have talks with them about the differences in race. I explain that it isn't an opinion of mine but rather a FACT that darker skinned people are different. If they choose not to believe me, all they have to do is get on the computer and research the topic. In addition, I reinforce the importance of keeping this information to themselves since it isn't politically acceptable to express the truth. In the corporate world, they will come to expect to be passed over for promotion as a result of unjust "equality". http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2719984/posts case and point!
gfalan
6:27 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Thats way you should never deal with black people. If I had seen those names I would not have gone, plain a simple. the odds of this happening is far greater when dealing with black people then white people. Anyone who wants to get defensive about that, go right ahead, but that's a fact. Thats not racism thats just 'better safe then sorry' like people who steer clear of a particle road or neighborhood, thats just life and the smart thing to do. To all you well intentioned Black folks out there, you can thank your ill intentioned black counterparts for giving you the short end of the stick. I do simple checks on people I meet on criagslist. Anyone I get an email from I track down there names and addresses through public records that are accessible on line. From there you can get their address recent run ins with the law property they own and where they have lived over the last few decades. It doesn't cost anything and and it's all open public information. You need to also be very analytical when you communicate with people on Craigslist. If they are pushing to meet you somewhere that is neutral that doesn't mean safe that means it is also hard to tie to them -red flag. If they don't want you to come to their house, also a red flag. If their word usage is choppy and out of context - red flag.If they speak in general/vague terms - red flag. Listen to what they say and cross reference their comments with prior comment s to ensure continuity in their story.
Chris M
8:53 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
My knee jerk response would be to say hang them all. Zero tolerance however, is not a good measure of a fair legal system. The shooter certainly needs to die, but the other two need to do time. If your 17 year old son happened to do something as stupid as robbing someone and one of the worthless rejects he was with pulled a gun and murdered someone else, nobody would feel that death would be a suitable punishment for the accomplisses.
The shooter needs to pay a life for a life, the others need to soak in the hole for a good ten years to dwell on it.
Brandy
8:57 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
I don't like buying off craigslist or any site after all the craigslist stuff has happened but if I feel I have to I always make sure it is daytime & in a public place not in a neighborhood or off some road it has to be public & around alot of people like walmart. I feel so bad for the family of that boy & hope that the shooters get life in prison for what they did "was it really worth it to take someones life over a cell phone or any other item" "NO, they need to face the consequences for their actions." He was just looking for an item he wanted to buy & saw it as a great deal & lost his life over that & he had so much to look forward to his life wa just beginning but ended so shortly RIP to him & my heart goes out to his family & friends.
John
8:58 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Where is Al Sharpton to denounce this as a racially motivated hate crime? You can bet your last dollar that if the victim was black and the killers white he would be marching to demand justice!
Escalonz
9:07 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
No pictures of the assailants? Why is this so often absent from the article?
Realist
9:24 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
It's really sad what happened to this young man.. It's also terrible to see folks using this incident to validate their all ready deep seated racism, hatred and fear. White people have killed more living things than anything else on the planet. Read your history books. Read your bibles. Criminals come in all colors. What color are all the priest who are molesting kids? Most of you have a murderer in your family. Your father, grandfather or even your grandmother who stood by and watched as an innocent blackman was hanged from a tree. So does that make you guilty as well?
dick johnson
9:43 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Thats what happens when you try to be a hero..shoulda just called the cops and let them catch and hopefully kill them three monkeys, now we have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to incarserate the three monkeys for decades..thats the price you pay for stupidity..YOUR LIFE!!!
Don Gibson
9:47 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Isn't it time to start teaching our kids the value of life in school and church?
Bring back God, prayer, and patriotism to our teaching. Then and only then
will we see a change for the better.........GOD HELP US ALL.
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
3:10 pm on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Your a RETARD! god obviously did not help this white boy thats why he died, you retard!
RJ
9:50 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
I WOULD DOUBLE CHECK IF THEY ARE ALL 17 OR MAYBE TO GET OVER THE HUMP , THEY MIGHT BE 18 AND MAKING THAT A BIG DIFFERENCE
If You Ask Me...
9:53 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Personally, The Death Penalty Would Be the Easy Way Out....How about some of that good ole' G.W. Bush Republican Waterboarding for the next 75 years for these criminals, "Dick Cheny" said it's not torture-so it must be okay to use on anyone even The American Terrorists, I mean teenagers. Then perhaps they should research their home life and see where their behavior began...somethings wrong at home if your kids are killing at 17 years old.
Steve
10:00 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
All you have to do is read their names to know they are black! Police should have done society a service and just taken them out! We are supporting to many blacks in prison and onwelfare already! Poor white guy died at the hands of some low life ..........!
jade
10:13 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Again you wonder why most of the jails are filled with BLACKS....this is why...parents who dont raise their kids right...name them shaquile jordan and the rest of their lives live on welfare with an entitlement attitude..yes folks the dems keep them on welfare and this is what you get....Nice work dems
jade
10:16 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
This is racism where is jessy jackson they targeted this boy cause he was white and had a job...
One who knows best
10:17 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
THIS is not America anymore! SO sick of the criminals getting away with everything.
TIME to bring back Capitol Punishment. Can you say "Hanging them on a rope downtown in front of the public???" WE see far worse on TV. Watching someone die for such crimes would bring BIG applauses!
Which court Judge has the nerve to hand out that kind of sentencing???? HUH??? WHICH???
Who's got BALLS today????
We the People should not have to live in fear anymore! Sick of it!
One who knows best
10:19 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Wouldn't it be nice to finally see someone getting HUNG downtown for all of us to see.
We shouldn't have to live in fear in this country anymore.
Which court judge has the nerve to bring that one back??? HUH??
So sick of the crime!
jade
10:19 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Something is wrong at home..They are raised by welfare parents who dont give a dam what their kids are doing just that they get the next welfare check..remembre Obama was going to give that woman free money ..she did not know where it came from maybe Obamas stash..thats the kind of mentality these people have and its democrates fault with all the welfare programs
Charles Bronson
10:21 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Feed up American
I am so feed up with these teens commiting all of these senseless crimes. I feel that if the three are found guilty, they should be taken out back and shot to death. If we started executing criminals for their crimes, instead of incarcerating them, maybe they would think twice before commiting a crime. Why should taxpayers foot the bill for the criminals, just kill them all. Better yet, make it mandatory to enlist in the military for 4 yrs. Seems they like to go around killing people, so why not put them in the action and let them kill our eenemies. Food for thought!!
Missy
10:56 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
It only takes a few slugs to make the world a worse place for the rest of the law abiding community. We keep having tmo modify our behavior to compensate for those who are the "poor victims of society". Doing harm or evil is a choice - these people don't need to be understood, they need to be punished!!!
DENISE
11:12 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
YEA YEA YEA.. AL SHARPTON AND JESSE JACKSON WILL CRAWL OUT OF THE WOODWORK AT THE TRIAL OF THESE 3 BLACK BOYS AND PULL OUT THE RACE CARD .. FROM JURY SELECTION ..ALL THE WAY TO THE SENTENCING AND THEN THE APPEALS. .. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE UPROAR, MARCHING AND EVEN RIOTS CALIFORNIA WOULD BE PREPARED FOR IF THE KID SHOT JUST HAPPENED TO BE A BLACK BOY AND THE MURDERS WERE 3 WHITE KIDS
Mawell
11:15 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
so where did all this information come from,not from shooters if it had they would have been confessed killers ,it must be from the girls so i guess it boils down to who can prove their case.Age should not even be factor here If they want to carry a weapon put them in army and send them to the desert.If they have to carry a weapon or gun oin order to conduct business then they have crossed the line but what "ITEM" was being purchased was it a legal item, does not not really matter if it can be proven they killed the boy send them away somewhere ,far far far away.
Robert
11:46 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Berki should have NEVER followed the "alleged" perpatrators's car. He should have gotten the lisence plate number, STOPPED, gone straight to the Police, told them the story & let THEM handle the situation. If he had, he might still be alive. But, my most sincere condolences go out to Garrett Berki's family.
Larry Nelson
4:40 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
IT'S TIME WE FAUGHT BACK WITH SOME JUSTICE OF OUR OWN, AT THE END OF A 13 LOOP ROPE! JUSTICE FOR DALLAS!
ray brown
6:01 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
It is amazing and even comical at most the stupid racist comments on this board. The intense animalistic racism is far worse than what these kids did to that boy. YOU RACISTS ARE COWARDS AND REALLY REALLY DUMB! If you were brave enough to express your stupid views in front of me, you probably get the same thing that boy got....a bullet between the eyes.
ray brown
6:11 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
What's so weird about these white racists and their backward racist comments is the fact that whites, both the females and males have committed the most vicious cold blooded heinous crimes in history. Most of these whites who are leaving these dumb comments are uninformed and just plain stupid. It's no wonder many of them end up killing off their parents and whole families....they become mad after learning they have been lied to and brainwashed.
John Cosgrove
5:04 am on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Ray brown,
What a senseless fool you are. Three low-rent scum bags murder a kid who made a poor decision and so say he deserved a " bullet in the eye" NICE...now get out of bed and get your GED..watch judge joe brown, see how your relatives are doing..and call your dad, if you even know who he is and tell him what a jack-off his son is
ray brown
4:09 pm on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
John Cosgrove you are what they call poor stupid white trailer park trash. Lean how to read and stop molesting your sister. I never said the boy disserves a bullet. I said, racists- shi!-for-brains, like you should have been aborted and should be shot for taking up space.
m black
7:14 am on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
If they would make the punishments fit the crimes I'm sure some of these useless IDIOTS and THUGS may think twice. I think they should get what they gave (death) by the Family from whom they robbed of their son. Call it eye for an eye but nothing else seems to work or even phaze these punks. Put them in prison then we have to pay for them out of our pockets and they are worse when they get out. EYE FOR AN EYE!
yeahok
9:24 pm on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
3 black kids? oh gee what a surprise. remember, stereotypes are around for a reason.
John Cosgrove
11:01 am on Wednesday, May 18, 2011
Ray Brown / Black.. I live in the most diverse city in the world NYC, and see thugging and bugging all around..Got nothing to do with Racism...NOTHING.It's so easy to look up crime stats... simple crime stats that you cant deny ( but im sure you will...
Get your head out of the sand, and maybe try to find a way to fix this problem, rather than deny it exists.
Sure there are bad people of every color and creed....White trash my ass..
Blacks make up only 12% of the us Population.. yet commit 50% of violent crimes..( hispanics 23%)
That means Blacks commit henious crimes at a rate of 7-1 of whites
Something youve never read. " Pack of Marauding white-yuppies accused of beating a 90 yr old Black ladyand robbing her of $3.25 cents!! .Raping a 14 yr old Black girl on the way home from school, A white bouncer beating a Black 17 yr old co-ed because she turned him down, or how about this one a jewish house keeper killing her black employees of 20 yrs because she was caught stealing her jewlry..
and this one a white gang killing a chinese imigarnt after he delived food ...
I'll spell it out you dang fool.. Replace black in all the white spaces and all of this has happened in every major city in the past 30 days....
kcb
12:05 pm on Thursday, May 19, 2011
Garrett was one of the first people that my son connected with when we moved here seven years ago after the death of his father, my high school sweetheart and my husband of 35 years, so my son and I are no strangers to death, but Garrett's death took us to our knees in grief. Not Garret, please, not Garrett. I am trying to understand because I need to know what I can do to help our society be better. Garrett made it better. We need to emulate him. I have Garrett very much alive in my mind having conversations with my son and him in our kitchen; we laughed and spoke about cars, family and goofy things; his inner joy and his love of people were shown in his eyes. In his world, nobody would have a gun or want to harm anyone. He would not have put himself or his gf in danger; he simply did not know about the bad things that people do. He was 18 - just starting to know the outside world. Make this a better place by showing love, being goofy and being kind - just like our Garrett.
ray brown
2:35 pm on Thursday, May 19, 2011
People don't be fooled by racists and their crazy talk about stats. Hey, the only major weird sick crime that happened on this Craiglist site was a white boy going around killing women for thrills. That's what they do. They do sick crazy evil things just for thrills. Just check out any major site. Another white crazy person killing people just for the heck of it. Whites are the most cruel and vicious killers in the world. Don't let them fool you.
julie
9:37 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011
Oh well, you PLAY, you PAY! I pray for all the innocent victim and their families/friends, as well as for all the young criminals who don't realize the consequences until after the fact and/or the damage is done.
Dennis
4:50 pm on Thursday, July 7, 2011
These kids that killed him need to spend at least life in prison - if not the death penalty. It needs to be considered a very serious crime when you use a gun - we need to impress on youth that when you take a gun or another weapon with you to commit a crime, you are taking the huge chance that this weapon will be used to kill or maim someone, and you will be responsible for the outcome!
david sweeney
5:23 am on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Rashon Abernathy, Seandell Jones and Shaquille Jordan.......that's all I needed to read
John Cosgrove
7:45 am on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Since people are being called racists here because of how they feel lets see...do the facts of whose in jail lie???
The incarceration rate in state or federal prison or jail for men was 1,384 per 100,000 residents, for women 134 per 100,000 residents. The rate for white men was 736 per 100,000, for black men 4,789 per 100,000, for Hispanic men 1,862 per 100,000. The rate for white women was 94 per 100,000, for black women 358 per 100,000, and for Hispanic women 152 per 100,000.
Source: Sabol, William J., PhD, Minton, Todd D., and Harrison, Paige M., Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear 2006 (Washington, DC: US Department of Justice, June 2007), NCJ217675, p. 9, Table 14.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_percentage_of_black_men_in_prison_than_whit